Re: thanks for the veggie advice
From: kmarie (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:02:35 -0600 (CST)
thanks for your comments, jodi...
>i have had no problems. i honestly think that the "problems" people
>have after consuming meat or dairy without doing so for a long time are
>largely psychological. i say this because i have seen countless vegans
>start to feel sick only after they find out they have inadvertantly
>consumed milk!! (it crops us in some weird places... whiskey sour mix
>comes to mind...) i also know people who seem to be selectively lactose
>intolerant...
i do have to disagree here-- as often i will have something that a
friend assures me is vegan and i eat it and feel physically ill -- and
later find out it had dairy or eggs. OS i think it can be psychological
but there also is a physiological basis to it.
>But anyway... i have found there to be an exceptionally high number of
>eating disordered people who are veg*ans. it's the easiest way there is
>to eliminate foods traditionally thought of as fattening. it is very
>easy, after eliminating such foods for purposes of making your diet
>easier, or disguising your illness better, to convince yourself that the
>REAL reason you are avoiding such foods is animal cruelty or whatever.
>
I became vegatarian about 10 years ago and have bulimic for 16 plus.
Veganism was something i came to after i seemed to have come to terms
with my body and wanted to treat it well. So for me, it is ethical.
There really is no way i can eat meat again -- the catholic guilt trips
come to easy already -- eating meat may make that worse (hehe).... but
i do know many people become vegetarian because of some kind of
disordered relationship with food.
>i am not saying this is ALWAYS the case - i was never a big meat eater
>before i became anorexic, but avoiding it was not as important to me
>ethically as i pretended it was. after a few years of being veggie, i
>went back to eating meat SOMETIMES...
ethically it really important to me -- i really truly do find it more
economical and generally i feel better - but then again i know that you
have to be careful with how you eat and what you eat and such. I work
very hard to keep a balanced diet and such. And becoming vegan in some
ways for me was a way to embrace my body as it was and to treat it
kindly. before pcos really was in the picture , as it is now. and if i
had to give it up, it will be tough -- as it is a large component of who
i am. I eat, dress, clean, etc with that philosophy.... though i know
eventually i wil have to look at other options. But not until i have
exhausted and truly know that being vegan wont work for me.
so thanks for you candor jodi.
kmarie
>- jodi
>
>At Mon, 26 Feb 2001, kmarie wrote:
>>
>>thanks for the suggestion on eating lo-carb and vegetarian... I have
>>read a bit about mcdougall and may go back and look at him some more.
>>Also have read a lot of macrobiotic stuff -- seems to work wonders for
>>many people with various health problems. A friend of mine keeps urging
>>me to do this fast -- but with my background steeped in eating
>>disordered behavior, i doubt that would be a smart move. Jodi(i think)
>>-- you mentioned you were trying to move back into meats -- do it slowly
>>as your body is probably not used to or does not know what/how to handle
>>it. Kind of like when i have had something with dairy in it -- i get
>>sick.
>>
>>The thing for me with veganism -- my seasonal allergies are less
>>noticeable and i sleep better. And i think maybe for me these has to be
>>a way to manage my pcos and not give up my ethical beliefs. When i see
>>my doctor tomorrow i think i will ask her and perhaps see if i can get
>>in with a nutritionist on campus to find out more about what she might
>>suggest.
>>
>>so thanks for your honest responses...
>>
>>--
>>kmarie
>>
>>ps-- someone mentioned a woman who dealt with pcos and was vegan and
>>wrote a book. Anyone know a title? thanks.
>>
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