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Re: Maria: Re: any vegetarians out there?

From: anonymous@obgyn.net
Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:53:33 -0600 (CST)


I know how it is to be at odds with your beliefs, especially to become a vegan. I don't know that much about sugarbusters to know if you can substitute beans (because of the carbs) for the protein portion. There are several books by Dr John Macdougall that deal with heart disease and diabetes that are totally vegan, but also no fat. His newest book is The Macdougall Program for Women, I'm unsure if it deals with PCOS or not, I know he does go into menopause and pregnancy. He has a website online, you can do a search. Diana Schwarzbein (Schwarzbein Principle) has a lot of vegetarian recipes, but it is loaded with eggs and cheese. You also need to watch the soy intake, it can depress the thyroid function, adding more of a hormonal problem. Unfortunately all 'pure, low carb' proteins are all animal related, except soy. At Mon, 26 Feb 2001, kmarie wrote: >
>I am new to this whole bulletin board thing -- but since i was diagnosed
>more certainly with pcos i have been researching options. I am a vegan
>and have been vegetarian previously for 10 plus years. I know a lotn of
>people choose this eating and life style for more than health reasons.
>For me it is also ethical and philosphically based in how I live. For
>the moment I am taking glucophage (250 mg twice a day to start) and that
>is a tough thing for me as I know it affects moral principles for me.
>But also I cannot seem to get through a day normally if I do nto do
>something about the pain, missed periods, prolonged periods (2 months is
>bad...), skin and such problems. Anyways, I have repeatedly seen
>reference to lo-carb diets and wondered how really they work if you are
>a vegan? I eat not animal products period -- no egg, milk, casein, and
>that does take away some of the veggie burger options because they use
>whey or egg as binders. I am graduate student and money is tight -- and
>yet i want to find a way to deal with pcos -- as it affects my life in
>other ways too. So, does anyone have experience or anecdotes (i just
>want to hear about experiences, scientifically backed or not) with
>eating lo-carb vegan? I want to do something more for myself -- and if i
>can find a way where taking glucophage is not needed it would be even
>better. Thanks for any comments.
>
>--
>kmarie
>
>At Sat, 13 Jan 2001, Stacey wrote:
>>
>>You know, I was willing to just let it go but this is the third and final
>>time I have posted something simply to help someone not make the same
>>mistake a friend made. I have been a regular poster here since late October,
>>and I agree that we have lots of facts on here, but we also tell lots of
>>stories - about ourselves or someone else - and I guess I thought all along
>>that we were here to help each other. I understand why some people have left
>>the board. Sometimes it's not worth speaking up to help someone. I really
>>love the community of regular posters, with all their support, but the way
>>people wander in and out just tossing their thoughts at random without
>>thinking about the way it comes across - well, I think I'm starting to take
>>it too personally when someone basically tells me to shove it in not-so-many
>>words.
>>
>>So I'm sorry for being "not at all helpful" in the words of two of the
>>latest posters by trying to help the poster "Jess" to not get sick. I
>>emailed another veggie friend about the convo and she had this to say:
>>
>>"You tell her that it's true that vegetarians don't eat just veggies but if
>>you take away the obvious carbs like bread, pasta, and grains, what's left?
>>Fruits, veggies, beans and legumes, eggs, and dairy products. Fruits are
>>full of carbs, and so are beans, legumes and some dairy. Of course you can
>>get all the amino acids you need from other sources but if you
>>eliminate fruits and veggies, where are you going to find sources of
>>vitamins and minerals? Speaking as a vegetarian, she sounds she has a chip
>>on her shoulder. Tell
>>her what she can do with her attitude."
>>
>>'Nuff said.
>>

>>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Kathy" <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>>To: "Multiple recipients of list PCOS" <anonymous@obgyn.net>
>>Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 5:22 PM
>>Subject: Re: Maria: Re: any vegetarians out there?
>>
>>> At Sat, 13 Jan 2001, Stacey wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't know how
>>> >helpful you will find this board if you don't like "annectodal
>>second-hand
>>> >stories" since this is basically what we are about.
>>>
>>> I dont think thats true, Stacey. I find lots of good solid facts from
>>> the regular posters. (Paula is a gem!)
>>> I think what Maria meant is that you were relating your friends
>>> experience, rather than your own...and without knowing exaclty what your
>>> friend was eating, it really isnt very helpful to say what happened to
>>> her.
>>>
>>> just my humble .02. ;-)))
>>>
>>> Kathy
>>>




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