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Re: Multiple pregnancy losses and PCOS!!!!!
From: anonymous (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:49:18 -0500 (CDT)
Michele
I am 29 and my husband and I first became pregnant in 1994 when I was
23. We tried again 6 months later and then we waited almost two years
and conceived in 1996. This is the longest period I have ever gone
without being pregnant. We finally gave up on the idea of a family
because it is so heartbreaking to lose 3 children without any
explanation. I always hear from others that we are young and have
plenty of time but I think I am too tired to keep trying. I would like
to be healthy if at all possible if ever decide to try again. I only
tried the progesterone in conjunction with the Clomid so I will never
now if it would have helped since I did not become pregnant. It is nice
to know that just maybe I may have found some answers.
At Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Michele wrote:
>
>Hi again, can I ask how old you are? I am 43 and I did not develop the
>hypertension until I was 41. I also do not have the hair problem. It
>is one of the reasons I think it took so long for me to get diagnosed. I
>have read somewhere that sometimes clomid can create a hostile
>environment for the sperm. That could explain why you didn't get preggo
>on it and then you did once you stopped. Are you being given
>progesterone suppositories for the second half of your cycle. You do
>sound like you have some of the symptoms of pco. Another one of those
>symptoms is not producing enough progesterone during the 2nd half of the
>cycle. If your progesterone is to low you will also miscarry.
>Hope this helps, maybe you already know all this stuff, so it won't
>help.
>
>At Tue, 25 Jul 2000, anonymous wrote:
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>>I have had a series of things happen besides miscarriage Unexplained
>>wheight gain, acne which has not been cured. Painful sometimes
>>irregular periods. I think since I have not had excessive hair growth,
>>high blood pressure or difficulty getting pregnant pcod is never
>>pursued. It is extremely easy for me to concieve I just can't seem to
>>stay pregnant. I have seen lots of different doctor's and at one point
>>I was even put on Clomid so that I could be given progesterone in order
>>to prevent a pregnancy loss. I did 3 cycles of it and never got
>>pregnant it felt as if it interfeared with my body. The minute I
>>stopped taking it I got pregnant again. Various OB's have done about 10
>>ultrasounds during two of my pregnancy's which showed a cyst but they
>>considered it a simple cyst and it went away. I will keep heading down
>>the path of enlightenment thanks for your suggestions. I hope you are
>>succesful in your own quest for a little one.
>>
>> Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Michele wrote:
>>>
>>>I know how you feel, I felt like I was getting no where for years. Then
>>>the fertility doc found the polycystic ovaries and everything else fell
>>>into place. It explained the irregular cycles, weight gain,
>>>hypertension, high cholesterol, fatigue, pain, and miscarriage. Endo's
>>>treat more then just diabetes, but I know some people have a hard time
>>>with their insurance getting to a specialist. Maybe your doc that ran
>>>all those other tests would do a fasting insulin for you too. I too
>>>have had many, many test done that have come back normal. Besides
>>>pregnancy loss what other symptoms do you have? My regular ob missed the
>>>polycystic ovaries inspite of 3 ultrasounds.
>>>I see that you had a gtt done checking for diabetes. After all the
>>>reading and research that I've done, some day I think that they will be
>>>testing insulin as regularly as glucose. I think they will find that
>>>before someone becomes diabetic the first stage of the disease is to
>>>become hyperinsulinemic. Then becoming diabetic after the pancreas
>>>produces so much insulin that it finally fails. They might even be able
>>>some day to prevent the development of some types of diabetes by
>>>treating the hyperinsulinemia first. So I do encourage you to get your
>>>insulin tested, if only to rule it out. I believe my fertility
>>>treatment didn't work this month because though I have had improvement
>>>since being on the glucophage it is still a very high 42.
>>>
>>>At Tue, 25 Jul 2000, anonymous wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the information. I have been tested for lupus and it was
>>>>negative. I have also had normal test results for progesterone,
>>>>prolactin, estogen, testosterone and hydroxyprogesterone 17 alpha. My
>>>>LH is lower than my FSH and both are normal. I took a fasting glucose
>>>>test which was slightly elevated 122 but I was given Dexamethazone
>>>>before the test to rule out Cushing's syndrome and am told that this
>>>>increases your blood suger levels. While I was pregnant I took a
>>>>glucose tolerance test which was normal. I haven't had my insulin
>>>>tested yet I guess? I have not sought the advice of an Endo because I
>>>>can never get that far since I am not Diabetic. I will keep pursuing
>>>>this issue but as a person in the medical field myself I am stumped and
>>>>so are the doctor's.
>>>>
>>>>At Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Michele wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Have you been to an endocrinologist yet. You do sound like you might
>>>>>have pcos. I have miscarried and also have a positive ana, which was
>>>>>misdiagnosed as lupus years ago. You have ruled out Lupus right? Early
>>>>>miscarriage is very high in women with pco. Have you had your insulin
>>>>>tested yet? This is different then your glucose. Most general testing
>>>>>do not regularly test insulin. The tests for insulin are: Fasting
>>>>>insulin, c-peptide and igtt. Also your male hormones and your LH:fsh.
>>>>>Many times Lh will be higher then fsh. If you have any of your lab work
>>>>>look to see if these were tested even if they are in the normal range if
>>>>>your LH is higher by 2 to 3 times your fsh, then this is a marker for
>>>>>pco. So find yourself a pco friendly endo. That would be my first
>>>>>step. If you do have elevated insulin you are at risk for diabetes,
>>>>>heart disease, hypertension and endometrial cancer. Listen to your
>>>>>heart if you know that you don't feel right then there probably is
>>>>>something wrong. I had been told I have fibromyalgia but I kept getting
>>>>>sicker and fibro is not suppose to be progressive, i knew something else
>>>>>was wrong. Well I was right and now am feeling so much better with the
>>>>>right treatment.
>>>>>
>>>>>At Tue, 25 Jul 2000, anonymous wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Has anyone suffered from multiple pregnancy losses as a result of PCOS?
>>>>>>I have been on an 8 year odyssey of unexplained weight gain of over 100
>>>>>>lbs in a six month period. Painful irregular periods and severe acne on
>>>>>>my back. Despite all of these issues I was given a clean bill of health
>>>>>>and I proceeded to become pregnant. I have become pregnant 3 times and
>>>>>>have lost each of them at 8 weeks gestation. I have been tested for all
>>>>>>immune disorders, thyroid disease, & diabetes. The only thing I have
>>>>>>tested positive for is something called ANA (anti-nuclear antibodies). I
>>>>>>also had a cyst on my ovary during my second pregnancy but was told that
>>>>>>it was a corpus luetium cyst related to my pregnancy. I have always
>>>>>>thought that something is really wrong with me but I can't find a Doctor
>>>>>>who believes that my symptoms are related. What do you ladies think?
>>>>>>Have any of you ever experienced any of these issues? Have any of you
>>>>>>had success with treatment and had healthy children? I would appreciate
>>>>>>any information or personal experiences that anyone would be willing to
>>>>>>contribute.
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>michele
>>>>>
>>>--
>>>michele
>>>
>--
>michele
>
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