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Re: Medical rape

From: Teenytoona (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:43:16 -0600 (CST)


This is about far more than one single teaching hospital. This has happened in many prominent teaching hosiptals across ths nations. And it is extremely relevant as it is a specific abuse of women. There are far better ways to teach students to learn how to perform an exam with a patient's informed consent. It's not as if they do prostrate exams on men without asking.

At Tue, 18 Mar 2003, =?iso-8859-2?q?Zalányi wrote: >
>Hi Nicki,
>
>Could you tell us the reason of disseminating this far off-topic information?
>I read the article: it is about ONE SINGLE teaching hospital, where it happened, and there may have been other occasions many years ago in other teaching hospitals.
>This is very brave to invite women to suite doctors, and I am sure that given the circumstances in the US they will win millions as you suggest.
>There is an other side of the coin however. Those medical students have to learn the skills of examinations, operations etc. And naturally they will not be skilled at the first occasion, not even at the second. So if they are not given the chance to try, they will never learn. I have been working in a teaching hospital and know how difficult it is to find patients agreeing to pelvic exams. With all this, I am not telling that examining anaesthetised patients without consent is OK, just trying to make you understand. Also, I don't think this is a reason to refuse general anaesthesia. There are many procedures unsuitable for local.
>As for suing: whatch the situation in the US. The tendency to litigate doctors (and companies for that matter) has led to mistrust between drs and patients, to increasing the number of unnecessary lab and technical examinations (fully knowing them to be supreflous, only avoiding legal consequences) and rendering medical costs increase terribly. In other countries (eg. Sweden) where people are less litigating, the medical care is far better and much less expensive. Litigations only help the members of the bar association not patients.
>Good luck with doctors and go on litigating them
>
>Sam M.D., Ph.D.
>
>> The attached article about doctors parading medical students into the OR
>> to practice pelvic exams on anesthetized women without their consent is
>> the most horrible thing I've ever read. I've had three gynecological
>> surgeries under general anesthesia, the most recent two weeks ago. The
>> idea that my doctors may have brought packs of strangers in to jack me
>> open with a speculum and then cram their fingers up me while I was out
>> almost knocked me off my feet. I have not been able to stop crying and
>> shaking. I'm horrified for all the women who have been assaulted in
>> this way by doctors they thought they could trust. This is nothing less
>> than medical rape. Violating a woman without her knowledge or consent
>> while she's completely helpless is practically the dictionary definition
>> of sexual assault. This is no different than a guy dropping a roofie
>> into a woman's drink and having sex with her while she's unconscious.
>> This is the most disgusting, despicable violation of patient trust I've
>> ever heard of. Women are not "pelvic exam dummies", they're human
>> beings who have the right to privacy and to be treated with dignity and
>> respect, and they deserve to be able to trust their doctors. I hope
>> women start suing and winning millions. I will never again trust a
>> physician to have my best interests at heart. I will never again allow
>> myself to be put under general anesthesia without a friend, family
>> member or someone else I trust to be an advocate for ME in the room. I
>> no longer trust a doctor to behave in that capacity.
>>
>> Women, pass this article on to every female you know. Only knowledge by
>> patients that this barbaric practice goes on will stop it.
>>
>> http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/03/11/pelvic.exams.ap/index.html
>>
>> --
>> Nicki
>>




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