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Re: Pregnancy and progesterone
From: BJ (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:52:32 -0600 (CST)
This is not a restricted site. I don't know what is going on but I sent
a message to the company to find out.
BJ
At Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Cassandra wrote:
>
>At Sun, 9 Mar 2003, BJ wrote:
>>
>>The Arbonne site is the best I've found that specifically addresses
>>progesterone and pregnancy and mentions studies.
>
>I can't get into the website you posted. The
>http://www.arbonn-central.com/detail2.asp?product_ID=FYI-14. link gives
>me a 404 error message, and when I try
>http://www.arbonn-central.com/ or
>http://www.arbonne-central.com (in case it was misspelled) I get a
>message stating I am not authorized to view this page, or a pop-up
>window asking for a password. Could you re-post a link that is open to
>the public? I'd like to see the studies.
>
>>The NPAN site is the
>>best I've found for overall info on use of progesterone. By the way,
>>their e-book gets very specific about dosing regimens for various
>>conditions but the info is based mostly on the real-life experience of
>>women using progesterone creams.
>
>The testimonials won't do it for me. I'm a basic science type of
>gal....
>
>>As for studies, I have been using P cream (several different brands, but
>>mostly one, notice I don't mention names unless asked!) for almost 9
>>years now and I have seen first hand the benefits. As someone who once
>>worked in medical research and saw doctors faking data to publish, I
>>don't necessarily trust what I read in medical journals, especially
>>considering the politics of alternative treatments versus pharmaceutical
>>companies (who fund a great deal of the research).
>
>As someone who has also participated in research (albeit on the clinical
>end collecting data, rather than the publishing or writing end) I agree
>that there are a few bad apples out there, but I'd hate to paint all
>medical research with the same broad brush. We've got to be able to
>trust some research, and if there is a review article done without
>pharmaceutical industry support, or a Cochrane review, I tend to trust
>the findings. I also take offense that someone might look upon data
>that I collected as "faked." I can assure you I've never done anything
>of the sort!
>
>>You know, it seems a bigger issue with the Prometrium is the variance in
>>the dosing, depending on how well your liver is working any particular
>>day.
>
>This is true for any p.o medication, not just P4. But there comes a
>time that you have to trust pills for certain things, and when I need
>something that can be stored at room temp. while I'm out of town, a
>p.o. form sounds like a better option. I have heard less than
>enthusiastic things about bio-adhesive gels, but they could be stored at
>r.t also, and perhaps the dosing switch from one intravaginal form to
>another would be more straightforward.
>
>>Since I don't know what you're using it for or what dose I
>>think your best bet for switching delivery systems is to talk to a
>>compounding pharmacist.
>
>Agreed. I don't have the experience to figure it out on my own (I'm not
>in GYN or endo,) my RE is chronically out of town, and his office is not
>very helpful when I have questions. Perhaps the pharmacist who makes my
>current suppositories could help me here.
>
>>I'm sorry if I sounded a little testy in my response. I have been
>>"jumped" before and accused of selling product on these boards. Guess
>>I'm a little sensitive about that issue! I have just had such amazing
>>success with P that I feel I need to at least let other women know there
>>are options.
>
>Likewise, I sometimes feel I am being "jumped" for being on the side of
>Western medicine as opposed to herbals. I just like to see
>reproducible, non-biased data on something before I use it. When I look
>up the P4 creams, most of the "data" comes from Dr. Lee, whom I suspect
>is just a tad biased himself. Do you have any research done by other
>people?
>
>>I'll be curious to know what you decide to do about your travel plans.
>>BJ
>
>I'll let you know if I get back online before I leave.
>
>--
>Cassandra
>
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