Re: PCOS-MEDICATION digest 1067
From: Bea (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Fri, 17 Jan 2003 22:14:17 -0700
Marianne: this is one of the e-mails I get from pcosobgyn.net, take care
Bea
anonymous@obgyn.net wrote:
> PCOS-MEDICATION Digest 1067
>
> Topics covered in this issue include:
>
> 1) Re: Provera and getting pregnant
> by dcarrier30@hotmail.com (Deanna)
> 2) Re: Prometrium 200mg Capsules - Cut in half?
> by "Victoria" <nichollsvi@cox.net>
> 3) Re: Provera and getting pregnant
> by bj@biotronikusa.com (BJ Elessar)
> 4) Re: Provera and getting pregnant
> by =?iso-8859-2?q?Zalányi Sámuel ?= <zalanyi.samuel@drotposta.hu>
> 5) LOCAL SUPPORT: AZ, NY, MN, WI
> by sonnet@pcosupport.org (Sonnet)
> 6) Clomid/Bravelle Combination?
> by sguillory1@netcommander.com (Sylvia )
> 7) Hair growth
> by anonymous@medispecialty.com (April)
> 8) For those who cannot get a doctor to prescribe Metformin
> by stevens@ispwest.com (Connie)
> 9) Re: Provera and getting pregnant
> by dcarrier30@hotmail.com (Deanna)
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:35:42 -0600 (CST)
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: dcarrier30@hotmail.com (Deanna)
> To: PCOS-MEDICATION@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: Re: Provera and getting pregnant
> Message-ID: <200301162135.h0GLZg031480@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> Thanks BJ,
>
> I wanted to clarify one more thing. I am not taking depo-provera but in
> fact medroxyprogesterone to cause me to have periods. I wasn't sure if
> I was clear or not.
>
> Does your answer still apply in that it should not increase my "already
> low risk" of pregnant?
>
> Would I not have my period that I normally get after completing the 10
> day dosage if I was pregnant or would I not know if I was until I took a
> test?
>
> Confusing to me...so much to know with this PCOS thing! ;)
>
> Deanna
>
> At Thu, 16 Jan 2003, BJ wrote:
> >
> >You are correct in your assumptions about Provera. And isn't it
> >interesting your doctor would say that when he is prescribing a drug
> >that could practically guarantee you won't conceive?! You should
> >investigate taking natural (bio-identical) progesterone instead.
> >Progesterone is the critical hormone for conception and gestation and,
> >of course, Provera is the opposite and can cause miscarriage. Please
> >read the insert that came with you prescription and/or talk to the
> >pharmacist. Good luck and congrats on the wedding!
> >BJ
> >
> >At Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Deanna wrote:
> >>
> >>Does anyone know the chances of getting pregnant while on or after
> >>taking Provera for the 10 day cycle?
> >>
> >>It seems to me that it wouldn't increase my chances since they use
> >>Provera for contraception (depo-provera). I asked my doctor months ago
> >>and I believe he said that I shouldn't worry about it and that it will
> >>be very hard for me to conceive naturally.
> >>
> >>I think I have a pretty severe case of PCOS. I never have my periods
> >>without taking provera or the pill. It has been this way my whole life
> >>and I am now 32. I have the weight around my stomach area, hair growth,
> >>anxiety, etc.. All the classic symptoms of PCOS. I have sex with my
> >>fiancee' without birth control or condoms and never get pregnant.
> >>
> >>We are getting married Nov 2003 and I don't want to be pregnant before
> >>we are married. I don't think that I am going to be able to conceive
> >>without medical help but I am curious about what Provera does to my
> >>chances of conceiving.
> >>
> >>If I was to get pregnant while taking the provera would I just not have
> >>the period that normally comes 1-5 days after I take the meds? If I do
> >>have a period does that mean I am not pregnant? I get so confused on all
> >>these meds and what is or will happen.
> >>
> >>Any advice would be great! :)
> >>Deanna
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 18:58:21 -0500
> ------------------------------
> From: "Victoria" <nichollsvi@cox.net>
> To: <pcos-medication@obgyn.net>
> Subject: Re: Prometrium 200mg Capsules - Cut in half?
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> My reproductive endocrinologist suggested it vaginally also to cut down on sleepiness side effect.
>
> Victoria
>
> From: =?iso-8859-2?q?Zalányi Sámuel ?= <zalanyi.samuel@drotposta.hu>
>
> Hi Dana,
>
> Why was you prescribed Prometrium for two months? This is a bit unusual for me.
> As to your question: capsules are not to be cut in half, but therer are two solutions: Prometrium is availabe in 100 mg dose as
> well. If you put Prometrium intravaginally, it is absorbed even better than orally.
> Looking forward to your answer
>
> Sam
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:20:00 -0600 (CST)
> ------------------------------
> From: bj@biotronikusa.com (BJ)
> To: PCOS-MEDICATION@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: Re: Provera and getting pregnant
> Message-ID: <200301170120.h0H1K0I04787@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> Depo is nothing more than a time release form of Provera. I was talking
> about the Provera you are taking. My answer/opinion still applies.
> Please read the insert to see if it mentions anything about pregnancy
> and talk to a pharmacist. They generally know a whole lot more about
> the drugs than the doctors. As with any pregnancy, you could possibly
> have some bleeding even after conception so
> the test for sure. Of course, the home tests are not always accurate
> either!
> BJ
>
> At Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Deanna wrote:
> >
> >Thanks BJ,
> >
> >I wanted to clarify one more thing. I am not taking depo-provera but in
> >fact medroxyprogesterone to cause me to have periods. I wasn't sure if
> >I was clear or not.
> >
> >Does your answer still apply in that it should not increase my "already
> >low risk" of pregnant?
> >
> >Would I not have my period that I normally get after completing the 10
> >day dosage if I was pregnant or would I not know if I was until I took a
> >test?
> >
> >Confusing to me...so much to know with this PCOS thing! ;)
> >
> >--
> >Deanna
> >
> >At Thu, 16 Jan 2003, BJ wrote:
> >>
> >>You are correct in your assumptions about Provera. And isn't it
> >>interesting your doctor would say that when he is prescribing a drug
> >>that could practically guarantee you won't conceive?! You should
> >>investigate taking natural (bio-identical) progesterone instead.
> >>Progesterone is the critical hormone for conception and gestation and,
> >>of course, Provera is the opposite and can cause miscarriage. Please
> >>read the insert that came with you prescription and/or talk to the
> >>pharmacist. Good luck and congrats on the wedding!
> >>BJ
> >>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:43:23 -0800
> ------------------------------
> From: =?iso-8859-2?q?Zalányi Sámuel ?= <zalanyi.samuel@drotposta.hu>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list PCOS-MEDICATION "
> <pcos-medication@mail.medispecialty.com>
> Subject: Re: Provera and getting pregnant
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> Hi Deanna,
>
> This is a very difficult question, and very few in the gyne community could give you a detailde answer on this.
> You are righ, Provera (or the depo form of it) is a contraceptive. But according to my research, if you take it at a point of time, when a mature follicle is present it would not block ovulation, it even enhances it. So I have been using it instead of the usual HCG shot to induce follicular rupture with ultrasound timing.
> Naturally if you get your bleeding after ceasing Provera, you can't be pregnant.
> For your info
>
> Sam
>
> > Does anyone know the chances of getting pregnant while on or after
> > taking Provera for the 10 day cycle?
> >
> > It seems to me that it wouldn't increase my chances since they use
> > Provera for contraception (depo-provera). I asked my doctor months ago
> > and I believe he said that I shouldn't worry about it and that it will
> > be very hard for me to conceive naturally.
> >
> > I think I have a pretty severe case of PCOS. I never have my periods
> > without taking provera or the pill. It has been this way my whole life
> > and I am now 32. I have the weight around my stomach area, hair growth,
> > anxiety, etc.. All the classic symptoms of PCOS. I have sex with my
> > fiancee' without birth control or condoms and never get pregnant.
> >
> > We are getting married Nov 2003 and I don't want to be pregnant before
> > we are married. I don't think that I am going to be able to conceive
> > without medical help but I am curious about what Provera does to my
> > chances of conceiving.
> >
> > If I was to get pregnant while taking the provera would I just not have
> > the period that normally comes 1-5 days after I take the meds? If I do
> > have a period does that mean I am not pregnant? I get so confused on all
> > these meds and what is or will happen.
> >
> > Any advice would be great! :)
> > Deanna
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:30:19 -0600 (CST)
> ------------------------------
> From: sonnet@pcosupport.org (Sonnet)
> To: PCOS-MEDICATION@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: LOCAL SUPPORT: AZ, NY, MN, WI
> Message-ID: <200301170330.h0H3UJ106689@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> ARIZONA
>
> It's time for another exciting meeting of the Arizona PCOSupport
> Chapter!
>
> The meeting will be on January 18th at 1:00 PM at the Chandler Public
> Library Sunset Branch (same location: 4930 W Ray Rd, intersection of Ray
> and Rural, northeast corner, behind the Jack in the Box, next to the
> Park)
>
> ***Please RSVP to arizona@pcosupport.org by January 13th.
>
> We will have the opportunity to hear from members from our very own
> chapter! Varying subjects regarding weight loss and managing PCOS
> through your diet will be covered. Hear about the new PCOS Diet Book,
> learn a little more about Gastric Bypass surgery, and be inspired as we
> hear a personal story to get us all going!
>
> What a great way to start the new year!
> I can't wait to see each of you on the 18th!
>
> Looking forward to a fantastic 2003, Carol
>
> NEW YORK
>
> THE NYC METRO CHAPTER OF PCOSA IS PLEASED TO PRESENT
> A FULL DAY OF MOVEMENT AND SELF CARE OPPORTUNITIES!!
>
> SATURDAY, JANUARY 18TH AT
> THE OLIVE LEAF WHOLENESS CENTER
> 145 E 23RD ST.
> NY, NY
>
> "MOVING WITH PCOS"
> FEATURING ROCHELLE RICE, MA, PCOS LIFESTYLE SPECIALIST
> 2-5 PM
> Kick off the New Year by participating in specialized movement programs
> designed for women with PCOS. Classes will be suitable for all levels
> of fitness. Experience the joy of movement in a supportive environment
> under the expert instruction of Rochelle Rice, MA. Movement
> opportunities will include Low Impact Aerobics, Yoga/Pilates,
> breathwork, and more! Wear comfortable clothes and sneakers.
>
> Cost for Movement Program: $25
>
> ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION WITH ROCHELLE RICE, MA:
> "MIND-BODY FITNESS"
> 12:30-1:30 pm
>
> Join us for a healthy low carb lunch catered by Whole Foods Market.
>
> Cost for Lunch: $15
>
> ADDITIONAL SELF CARE OPPORTUNITIES:
>
> Available by appointment from 10 am-5 pm: Size Friendly and PCOS Aware
> HealthCare Practitioners. Modalities include: Massage, Reflexology,
> Acupuncture. Fees vary by practitioner. Appointments can be scheduled
> by calling The Olive Leaf Wholeness Center at 212-477-0405.
>
> TO REGISTER:
> With check, mail to In Fitness & In Health, 200 E 35th St.,
> Suite 2, NY, NY 10016.
> With credit card, call (212) 689-4558.
> Questions? E-mail us at nycmetro@pcosupport.org
>
> *SPACE IS LIMITED. PLEASE REGISTER NO LATER THAN 1/16/03.*
>
> Hope to see you there!!! This will be an exciting event!!
>
> Melissa Mace
> NYC Metro PCOSA Chapter Leader
>
> PS - **Please note** If you would like to attend either just the
> movement workshop OR just the RoundTable Lunch, that is perfectly fine.
> Also, the other self care opportunities are available that day if you
> would like them, but they are not part of these 2 events. The time for
> the Movement Workshop is now 2-4pm. We had anticipated larger numbers
> of participation based on interest generated re:movement, fitness and
> the Luncheon which would have made it necessary to break us down into 2
> or 3 small groups.
>
> To help with planning for future events, I would appreciate feedback
> from those who are not planning on attending-especially those who have
> come to the last few events and those who indicated an interest for this
> type of event.
> You can email me directly at: nycmetro@pcosupport.org
>
> Thank you!!
> Melissa
>
> MINNESOTA
>
> Please join the group in Rochester for an enjoyable evening. Our new
> Rochester chapter coordinator is Pat Wimmer, RN. She will be
> facilitating the meeting.
>
> Date: Tuesday, January 21
> Time: 7:00 - 9:00 p.m.
> Location: Mayo Charlton building, connected to the Methodist Hospital at
> the intersection of 3rd Ave NW and Center St.
> Parking: Graham ramp, one block north of the Charlton building on 3rd
> Ave NW, free
> Subject: PCOS 101, Dr. Rose Christian. From 7-8 Dr. Christian will be
> discussing the basics of PCOS with a question and answer session. From
> 8-9 there will be a care and share session.
>
> RSVP to Pat at wimmer.patricia@mayo.edu.
>
> WISCONSIN
>
> Calling all Wisconsin gals! It's time to mark your calendars for the
> annual PCOSupport Wisconsin spring retreat!
>
> This year's dates are Saturday and Sunday, March 22-23, and will again
> take place at the Wisconsin Lions Camp in Rosholt, Wis. (located in the
> central part of the state, 17 miles NE of Stevens Point, 42 miles SE of
> Wausau).
>
> Your PCOSupport Wisconsin board is hard at work finalizing details for
> activities, meals, and other events. Possible choices include personal
> massage (a huge hit last year!), qi-gong or yoga, rubber stamping,
> aromatherapy, and more.
>
> We will also have a resource room filled with books, magazine and
> medical journal articles, videotapes and so on to help education
> yourself further about PCOS. Personal growth exercises will also be
> sprinkled throughout the
> weekend, and plans for a clothing exchange are also in the works.
>
> On Saturday afternoon, we will hold a state chapter meeting of
> PCOSupport Wisconsin as well, where annual officer elections will take
> place. The women selected will lead our chapter though the next year,
> and it's important to share your vote. If you can't get way for the
> whole weekend,
> please consider joining us Saturday afternoon for lunch and the meeting.
>
> Registration forms and complete cost information will be available Feb.
> 1. To request a registration form, send an e-mail message to
> wisconsin@pcosupport.org Please specify whether you can receive a Word
> document via e-mail or need a hard copy mailed to you.
>
> You can also reserve your spot now, before the registration forms go
> out, with a $20 deposit, made payable to Kim Frankenhoff and sent to her
> at 235 S. Grove St., Iola, WI 54945-9645. You will receive an
> e-receipt for that
> payment, and your balance will be due upon arrival at the Wisconsin
> Lions Camp.
>
> If you have any questions about the retreat, send a message to
> wisconsin@pcosupport.org
>
> We hope to see you there!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:48:10 -0600 (CST)
> ------------------------------
> From: sguillory1@netcommander.com (Sylvia)
> To: PCOS-MEDICATION@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: Clomid/Bravelle Combination?
> Message-ID: <200301170348.h0H3mA729562@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> I have been taking Glucophage XR now for five cycles without ovulating
> at all, so my RE prescribed Clomid for cd 3-7. I did not have much
> success with my follicle maturation as of today (cd 10) when I had my
> ultrasound, so he prescribed Bravelle to be taken subq for four days. I
> guess what I want to know is if there is a very good success rate with
> injectibles for people like my with PCOS. Is anyone out there on the
> same meds or maybe have some support or answers for me? Please respond
> here or by email. Thanks!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:03:36 -0600 (CST)
> ------------------------------
> From: anonymous@medispecialty.com (April)
> To: PCOS-MEDICATION@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: Hair growth
> Message-ID: <200301170503.h0H53aK08210@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> I am 23 and was finally diagnosed with pcos about a year ago after many
> years of symptoms and a complicated pregnancy. I have been through a
> lot of blood testing, ultrasounds and a gynecologist who was really
> doing nothing for me. Now I have found a wonderful endocrinologist who
> has helped me tremendously. One thing is that she did say my total/
> free testosterone is somewhat alarming. Currently I am on the Ortho
> Evra patch and Glucophage XR. The patch has brought my periods back and
> the Gluc. has ended the hypoglycemic attacks so far. But the plucking
> and waxing is getting old! In a few months I am due to have my blood
> re-evaluated and at that time my RE said she may put me on an additional
> medication for all of the hair growth. Can anyone tell me what types of
> medications are out there that are safe to use with my current meds. and
> what side effects they may have? I would really appreciate any advice!
> Good luck to everyone.
>
> Thanks!!
> April
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:03:24 -0600 (CST)
> ------------------------------
> From: stevens@ispwest.com (Connie)
> To: PCOS-MEDICATION@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: For those who cannot get a doctor to prescribe Metformin
> Message-ID: <200301170703.h0H73OQ01270@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> For those of you who are having trouble getting prescriptions the best
> advice I can give form experience, is make copies of articles on and off
> the net relating to the Newest studies supporting the use of that drug
> and PCOS, PCOSA site has several articles...Print them on your printer
> and highlight areas that deal with your specific needs, and present them
> to your doctor....if he or she will have no part of it, then it's time
> you find a new doctor....if it is an endocrineologist that you have been
> referred to, ask for a referral to a new one from your internal medicine
> doc or obgyn doc......and and your gyn or internal med doc can prescribe
> these drugs as well.
>
> Praying for all of us!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:10:45 -0600 (CST)
> ------------------------------
> From: dcarrier30@hotmail.com (Deanna)
> To: PCOS-MEDICATION@OBGYN.NET
> Subject: Re: Provera and getting pregnant
> Message-ID: <200301171410.h0HEAjl23663@mail.medispecialty.com>
>
> Thanks so much Sam and BJ for your help.
>
> You both answered my questions. I feel more at ease now and if my
> bleeding doesn't start in the next few days I will take a test. Since
> the doctors tell me that I won't be able to get pregnant without drugs
> or inv and who even knows about those options without complications or
> disappointement, I guess it would be a welcomed miracle if I was to get
> pregnant without planning and from taking Provera.
>
> Take care,
>
> Deanna
>
> At Thu, 16 Jan 2003, =?iso-8859-2?q?Zalányi wrote:
> >
> >Hi Deanna,
> >
> >This is a very difficult question, and very few in the gyne community could give you a detailde answer on this.
> >You are righ, Provera (or the depo form of it) is a contraceptive. But according to my research, if you take it at a point of time, when a mature follicle is present it would not block ovulation, it even enhances it. So I have been using it instead of the usual HCG shot to induce follicular rupture with ultrasound timing.
> >Naturally if you get your bleeding after ceasing Provera, you can't be pregnant.
> >For your info
> >
> >Sam
> >
> >> Does anyone know the chances of getting pregnant while on or after
> >> taking Provera for the 10 day cycle?
> >>
> >> It seems to me that it wouldn't increase my chances since they use
> >> Provera for contraception (depo-provera). I asked my doctor months ago
> >> and I believe he said that I shouldn't worry about it and that it will
> >> be very hard for me to conceive naturally.
> >>
> >> I think I have a pretty severe case of PCOS. I never have my periods
> >> without taking provera or the pill. It has been this way my whole life
> >> and I am now 32. I have the weight around my stomach area, hair growth,
> >> anxiety, etc.. All the classic symptoms of PCOS. I have sex with my
> >> fiancee' without birth control or condoms and never get pregnant.
> >>
> >> We are getting married Nov 2003 and I don't want to be pregnant before
> >> we are married. I don't think that I am going to be able to conceive
> >> without medical help but I am curious about what Provera does to my
> >> chances of conceiving.
> >>
> >> If I was to get pregnant while taking the provera would I just not have
> >> the period that normally comes 1-5 days after I take the meds? If I do
> >> have a period does that mean I am not pregnant? I get so confused on all
> >> these meds and what is or will happen.
> >>
> >> Any advice would be great! :)
> >> Deanna
> >>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
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> ------------------------------
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