Re: Dr Sam and BCP's
From: =?iso-8859-2?q?Zalányi Sámuel ?= (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Wed, 23 Jan 2002 06:56:46 +0100
Dear Renee,
THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE between Europe and the US. You are looking for help and information on this board. I think if you get it, you should accept it as it is and not insult the person who provides them...
Sam
> I think this may be a difference between the US and Europe. The distinction
> is made in the US.
>
> Renee
>
> Zal·nyi S·muel wrote:
> >
> > Dear Renee,
> >
> > Thank you for your elaboration, but you are simply wrong.
> > The disease we are talking about and most of you have started as
> > Stein-Leventhal syndrome (1930s), after the two US gynecologists, who
> > correctly established the most important symptoms: overweight, hair growth,
> > menstrual irregularities, infertility and they also realized that the
> > ovaries are white, enlarged and contain lot of cysts. It was later
> > recognized that these women may later become diabetics and get endometrial
> > cancer.
> > Sometime in the 1970-s it became a fashion to name syndromes after their
> > characteristics hence the name PCO which was later further expanded PCOD
> > (disease) or PCOS (syndrome).
> > What you beleive to be PCO is simple ovarian cyst. Cysts in PCO(S) hardly
> > ever burst, because they are to small. Would they burst, there were not so
> > many of them.
> > For your info
> >
> > Sam
> >
> > > Dr. Sam,
> > >
> > > I have to disagree with you on this. PCOS and PCO are very different
> > > conditions, and not synonyms.
> > >
> > > PCOS is the complex syndrome with a large number of physical
> > > manifestations,
> > > including IR, homonal imbalances, weight gain, facial hair, head hair
> > > loss,
> > > fertility difficulty, etc. Though named PolyCYSTIC Ovarian Syndrome,
> > > ovarian
> > > cysts are neither sufficient nor necessary. Many PCOSers don't have
> > > cysts..
> > > The
> > > common presentation of cysts, when they occur, is the small "string of
> > > pearls"
> > > variety. Most women with PCOS know something is wrong, but don't know
> > > what,
> > > or have difficulty getting answers.
> > >
> > > PCO is the presence of cysts without the other conditions. The common
> > > presentation is isolated large cysts, not a "string." While these cysts
> > > can
> > > cause pain, may burst, and may need to be drained, the problem is
> > > isolated
> > > to
> > > these cysts. There are many women walking around with PCO who don't
> > > know
> > > anything is wrong.
> > >
> > > There are PCOSers who don't have cysts, and PCOers who dont' have PCOS.
> > >
> > > I just wanted to clarify this point so that women weren't confused and
> > > expecting a lifetime of health challenges just because they have a few
> > > cysts
> > > on their ovaries without the whole syndrome.
> > >
> > > Renee
> > >
> > > Zal·nyi S·muel wrote:
> > > > PCOS/PCO (the two are synonims).
> > >
> > > --
> > > Renee Cordrey, MSPT, MPH, CWS
> > > ---
> > >
> > > Don't follow in the footsteps of the masters. Seek what they sought.
> > > --Zen saying
> >
>
> --
> Renee Cordrey, MSPT, MPH, CWS
> ---
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