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Re: Paxil..From: Barbra (anonymous@obgyn.net)Fri, 7 Dec 2001 03:45:59 -0600 (CST)
At Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Sonnet wrote: > >I could not disagree more with this post, just as an fyi so you have the >other side of it as well. > >Because PCOS so affects all of our hormones, it would be logical that it >affects seratonin levels. Particularly since so many women complain of >symptoms related to seratonin problems like depression, anxiety attacks, >insomnia, fatigue, etc. The SSRI drugs correct the imbalance. > >I have asked a LOT of women with PCOS over the years about this and >*ALL* of them so far have been very pleased with the positive changes in >their lives thanks to finally treating their depression. > >Depression is definitely a symptom of this syndrome, and one that so >impacts our quality of life, that it deserves treatment. > >At Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Barbra wrote: >> >>At Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Jill wrote: >>> >>>Dear Anonymous: >>> >>>I was scrolling through the messages and noticed that you mentioned >>>Celexa. I have been on Celexa for 1 month and also have pcos. I used >>>to take Paxil but gained weight. So now with the Celexa I'm nervous >>>that the same thing will happen. Have you noticed any weight gain with >>>the Celexa? >>> >>>Thanks! >>> >>>-- >>>Jill >>> >>>At Sun, 4 Nov 2001, anonymous wrote: >>>> >>>>Hi Tera, >>>> >>>>I have PCOS and take Celexa for depression. I helps me a lot and I am >>>>so glad to be on it. >>>> >>>>Hope Paxil helps you too. >> >>Dear Anonymous, >> >>I am sorry to be the bringer of bad news....but you should look up all >>the side effects of Paxil.Prozak,Zoloft,Serozone and some other SSRI's. >>These are dangerous anti-depressents. >>Don't let the doctors medicate your depression...they are putting a >>bandaid on it and the only thing that will happen,is that you will,in >>all probability,gain weight..run into other health issues...as I did >>myself.My first diagnosis was anxiety and depression with a misplaced >>mood and aggressive behaviour and some outbursts of rage at time...only >>because,I WAS EXPERIENCING MY WHACKED OUT HORMONES....PCOS CAUSES >>DEPRESSION,ANXIETY,PANIC ATTACKS,AGORAPHOBIA AND OTHERS. >> >>You need to start from within....I know these doctors may say that you >>have a serotonin problem etc.,..that is a bunch of bullcorn.Don't buy >>it,even in the event that you do feel better for a while,as I did. >>Us women have whacked out hormonal problems...that needs to be >>addressed...when that is fully understood and treated..then the >>depression should also subside. >> >>Paxil will make you sweat bullets...there is not one person that I ever >>spoke to during my research on the meds,that has not had horrible >>experiences. >>GO on the web and look up "paxil nightmare"..you will find hundreds of >>stories. >> >>My cousin,and also a friend,as well as myself,experienced shock like >>symptoms from the paxil..these meds also cause taccycardia.....are hard >>on the liver and should never be taken with grapefruit juice....that >>juice has an effect of increasing the effects and side effects of the >>meds. >> >>I am in no way trying to scare any of you...telling you that these drugs >>should not be taken...but giving you a warning that they have >>permanently damaged some of my organs,,,one being my heart. >>PCOS causes heart palps to begin with and we are depressed..well,some of >>us,as we are overweight etc. >>Grab some meditation books...if exercising is too difficult,,then try >>yoga.....use aromatherapy for depression....try homeopathic meds and >>most of all,talk to your doctor(that is if he/she is open minded and >>respects your knowledge),about Dong Quai.This has been of tremendous >>help for me and others suffering with this chronic illness. >> >>These meds will either sedate you,,,,but most of all,give you horrible >>insomnia..as if we haven;t already got a problem with that.Then the doc >>will come and combat that with a sleeping pill...then another drug..... >> >>I know that these pharmeceutical companies say these drugs are the >>newest anti-depressants and pose less risks than the older ones..but,you >>are playing with fire. >>I have been there.....it has been five years of hell,now to discover >>that my original symptoms were that of PCOS.....given the wrong >>diagnosis and then prescribed a myriad of drugs that had serious >>detramental effects on my body. >> >>Please,as a women that is still suffering in silence..I warn you..do not >>resort to the anti-depressants.Not only will you battle the PCOS...but >>then ongoing addictions to these meds.They are as bad and addictive as >>crack or cocaine. >>Ladies.please do some homework before starting any regimen of >>anti-depressants..if I would have...I would never suffered as badly as I >>did and still am. >>I am open to comments and suggestions,,,,,I am presently doing some >>research on homeopathic meds,and if I can help any out there,I will try. >>Do not hesitate to email me. >>In all Sincerety, >>Be well,ladies..it is YOUR BODY!YOU HAVE THE POWER OF CONTROL OVER THIS >>DEPRESSION...NOT THE MEDS! >>>> >>>>At Sat, 03 Nov 2001, Tera wrote: >>>>Hi, I have PCOS and Type 2 diabetes. Has anyone been on Paxil or prozac >>>>that has Pcos? Did it help you? >>> >>I HAD DIAVBETES INSIPIDUS...IT MADE ME WORSE.....OFF THE MEDS...MY >>DIABETES CLEARED UP..AS SONNET HAD WRITTEN,,CERTAIN MEDS CAUSE THE BODY >>TO NOT ABSORB CERTAIN VITAMINS AND MINERALS....ONCE THE MEDS ARE >>STOPPED,,THE DIABETES CAN CLEAR UP...AFTER I RECEIVED A RESPONSE FROM >>SONNET TO LOOK IT UP ON THE WEB,THEN DISCUSSED WITH MY DOCTOR...PROVED >>TO BE TRUE. >>I WOULD NOT TAKE IT. >> >>-- >>Sincerely, >>Barbra Camara >> >-- >Sonnet Fitzgerald, PCOS Association, Online Community Liaison. Email: sonnet@pcosupport.org > Dear Sonnet, I respect your thoughts on depression and how it indeed effects us women with PCOS. May I,just point one thing out. If there is a Serotonin imbalance,that should indeed be treated by these horrible drugs....then,why not get your serotoninlevels tested? That should be all it takes to see if it is acutally the PCOS,or the Serotonin inbalance. I have been put thru the mill on these drugs...one simple,,yes,one simple blood test,,,would have completely ruled out that I had a serotonin inbalance. I DON'T!. In respect for all the women...me included..who still does suffer from depression...it is also the insulin resistance....the weight problems....dear lord,,anyone would be depressed carrying around a hundred or more extra pounds..feeling worthless about themselves and less of a woman,as we have difficulty conceiving..I am including myself as I write. Depression is SECONDARY to this chronic disease,so if we are going to treat the disease....treat the disease it'self,,,not bandaid the problem. Once the disease or syndrome is corrected,the depression,anxiety,panic attacks should subside...it may take a while,,,but don't medicate the problem...it is like hiding behind a door. Try getting off the anti-depressants......try....it is a darned nightmare. Clincally,we have an adjustment disorder with related anxiety and depression from this syndrom...that is to be expected.There is no way that serotonin is responsible for the depression. As you already know....I got diabetes insipidus from the med called "luvox"......there is a list as long as a highway with side effects from that drug.....lupus,arthririts......I can go on and on. Some of you will may never get any side effects at all.......but there are still going to be detramenal ,long lasting problems with other areas here. I,currently participate in a study with what anti-depressants can do to the human body.Once you are on them...might as well be doomed to be on them for the rest of your life and that is a shame. I am in no way trying to be negative to what you wrote,,,I am just offering advice for women that are suffering and may suffer more later on. There are far more better ways at combating depression....one is just having this support group to be able to be open and blunt about our concerns and depression and helplessness at times.My heart goes out to every single one of you,and it is just that I would hate to have ANYONE out there suffer the effects as I did...being told that the side effects would subside...then trial and error...trying others....mixing with others.....and then PCOS turns into a myriad of chronic disorders. We are women and we are STRONG.....I KNOW THAT AT TIMES,I SUFFERED SUICIDAL THOUGHTS,,,AND I STILL DO...AT TIMES,I JUST CANNOT TAKE THE DISCOMFORT.....but,I try and discipline my body. I have gone to the point of trying to exphixiate myself in my car...taken an overdose of pills........this was after I was taken off these pills. Wean off them..that's what the doctor will do....it is like an alchoholic going thru detox and that is certainly no picnic. Hey,if the drugs work and you feel your body telling you that it is the right thing to do..then by all means,go with your instinct. I am just trying to help. Again,I just want to point out that it take alot of courage to go thru what we are....and the best part,is that once the underlying disorder is under control...the depression should subside....one,two three....takes time...but we have to think positve. Once you start playing around with the central nervous system......is like playing with fire. Again,we have enought going on with our hormones. THIS IS CLEARLY AN ENDOCRINE DISORDER,,,NOT A MAJOR MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEM!
-- Sincerely, Barbra Camara
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