Re: Birth control pills...some getting confused by my posts
From: AdoptASAP (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Thu, 31 May 2001 12:55:18 -0500 (CDT)
Yes, I know acne is from PCOS. But, my question is, are you taking it
for the PCOS or becayuse you are unhappy with the way you look. I am
more concerned about how I feel and my body function then cosmetic
issues. BCP are a dangerous med. BCP are too irratic to risk for me.
It also does more then one thing which also can be dangerous. When you
take a drug for one specific thing, its different because then you know
the cause and the whys and can try a new drug.
With BCP's you end up playing with the dose, the type, etc. Its a
quirky drug. Some brands/types work, some dont. They are way too
risky. You could be allergic to one or have a serious side effect and
not with another kind. There are too many side effects associated with
BCP's per type. Its almost like a type of BCP gets approved if it helps
5 people. That doent happen with other drugs. It takes a lot of
success for it to be approved. BCP seem to be approved too easily with
too much risk in the wind. Not enough research into the drug before
approved. Again, this is speculation and what it seems like.
Take the DCI pill. It is going to take a total of 7 years before its
available to us. Yet, I have heard of BCPs only taking a year to get
approved (dont ask which because I couldnt tell ya..too many BCP's out
there to remember which I heard this on and too long ago). That strikes
me very odd.
Endo is more serious then PCOS. Its a much more serious illness that
needs to be addressed. Taking BCP for endo is litterally saving your
life. It is different then using BCP for PCOS. There are other better
drugs to help the PCOS. BCP doesnt directly help PCOS where there are
other drugs that do.
Its ok if you dont understand. I am not asking you to take anything I
have said as fact either. Just something to think about and concider.
We all have different POV and thats ok too. I dont agree with BCP's
(unless to treat cancer/endo) for the reasons in the second paragraph.
If what I have said here makes people do more research on a BCP they
were perscribed before taking it, then I have done what I set out to do.
Don't take drugs just because a doctor tells you to. Research the drug
first.
At Thu, 31 May 2001, Christa wrote:
>
>Do you understand that the cause of the acne is PCOS? I have the acne
>because I have high levels of androgens in my body. No normal treatment
>for acne will help me as they don't address the androgen excess. If I
>didn't have PCOS, regular treatments would yeild results. The Diane 35
>(BCP) is addressing the androgen problem as it contains an anti-androgen
>(cyproterone acetate). Some people take some other anti-androgen like
>spironolactone to suppress the androgens while also taking the
>glucophage (or other insulin sensitizing medication). I don't really
>understand your comment about agreeing with BCP for certain things but
>not others. I'm taking this BCP specifically for PCOS.
>
>At Thu, 31 May 2001, AdoptASAP wrote:
>>
>>Thats great that it worked for you. I just think that taking a BCP for
>>the main purpose of acne isnt totally smart. But thats my opinoin.
>>
>>I absolutely agree with taking BCP for endo and other factors as such.
>>After all, it is saving your life. That is totally different.
>>
>>At Thu, 31 May 2001, Christa wrote:
>>>
>>>No drugs helped my acne which is from PCOS. I tried everything,
>>>absolutely everything available from very good dermatologists as well as
>>>my endo. The only thing that has helped me so far is the Diane 35.
>>>
>>>At Wed, 30 May 2001, AdoptASAP wrote:
>>>>
>>>>No, just the hormones a for a time and gives you a menstraul.
>>>>
>>>>Although BCP do alleviate some of the symptoms, but not for all, its
>>>>still a drug that needs to be analized before taking. There are other
>>>>drugs that help different symptoms without interfering with your
>>>>hormones.
>>>>
>>>>At Wed, 30 May 2001, Christa wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Does Provera alleviate any of the PCOS symptoms?
>>>>>
>>>>>At Tue, 29 May 2001, AdoptASAP wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My posts were not directed at Insulin Resistant problems. While that is
>>>>>>the number one concern, if you are thinking about BCP, my conern has
>>>>>>been taking a drug that isn't helping you. The same thing the BCP
>>>>>>(besides preventing pregnancy), Provera - a 10 day pill - does the same
>>>>>>thing. Its less meds in your body.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>BCP are a CONSTANT medication in your body that is usually perscribed to
>>>>>>PCOSers to give them a menstraul and a break from the hormones. Provera
>>>>>>does that. Do you want a 30 day medication in your body that a 10 day
>>>>>>pill can do? The hormones and menstraul screw ups are just a side effect
>>>>>>to PCOS. Therefore, it isnt really helping the cause like Gluc/Met
>>>>>>does. This is most important. Attacking the cause not the side
>>>>>>effects.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>BCPs are only a bandaid. When you get off the BCP most likely the
>>>>>>symptoms have worsened. Why? Not because of the medication itself, but
>>>>>>because it was only hiding the PCOS and not treating it. PCOS needs to
>>>>>>be treated in order to stop getting worse or to get better. PCOS gets
>>>>>>worse with age.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>People have lost weight on BCPs alone only to gain it back when they get
>>>>>>off the pill. People have gotten their acne cleared up, only to get it
>>>>>>back when they get off the pill. The pill is a temporary solution for a
>>>>>>bigger problem. I personally dont want meds 24/7 in my body that arent
>>>>>>really helping anything. Thats only going to reek havoc on my body in
>>>>>>the end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There are other methods of BC if you do not want to concieve. I will
>>>>>>say it again, spermacide and condoms or sponge/diaphram are the same
>>>>>>%age as a BCP in effectiveness. A Diaphram can be inserted up to 8
>>>>>>hours before intercourse. Spermacide can be applied during foreplay.
>>>>>>The benefit is, this is temporary unlike BCP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Please rethink the whole BCP issue before really plunging in. BCPs are
>>>>>>ONLY a bandaid. Provera will give you the temporary relief you need
>>>>>>without the added insult.
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Christa :-)
>>>>>
>>>--
>>>Christa :-)
>>>
>--
>Christa :-)
>