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Re: vaniqa use and results
From: anonymous (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Sat, 17 Mar 2001 23:42:38 -0600 (CST)
thanks for the info I read that in my Rx insert as well that it is less
than 1% of the radioactive dose . It also is an enzyme called
ornithine..didn't know there are radioactive enzyms but then again i'm
not a doctor..lol.And yes it is expensive. But well worth it to me to
get rid of this nasty problem!!I hate waxing and shaving.It is yucko to
have to deal with!!and i'm sorry if you took my reply in the wrong way
hun. I was just saying that I had never read that was used for anything
other than sleeping sickness or for slowing down hair growth. It's
interresting to find out what else it is used for and I would like to
find out all I can about something I am slathering on my face 2 times a
day...I'm just happy that it's working!
anon...the typo queen *smile*
>
>And actually, if you go to the vaniqa website, under Pharmacokinetics,
>it says, "the cream... is <% of the radioactive dose." That's more than
>ample to show me that it was a chemo drug. Now, does that mean I won't
>use it? Waxing works fine for me, I don't have the need to waste the $
>right now.
>
>At Sat, 17 Mar 2001, anonymous wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>> I thought Eflornithine (the ingrediant in Vaniqa)
>>was origanally used for African sleeping sickness only. At least thats
>>what it says at there Website.Then some genious researhcer observed that
>>it slows the grouth of facial hair(lucky for us!).I also looked it up at
>>WEBMD.Com.It effects the DHT receptors in the skin which is a metobolic
>>function of testosterone...it effects people with african sleeping
>>sickness metobolicaly as well it in fact wakes them up.My Doctor told me
>>that the chemical Eflornithine is a testosterone dirivative...meaning
>>that it is made from it(or derived) which makes sense to me because
>>testoserone affects us metabolically. I have not read anywere that it
>>is chemotherapy...although I would like to read more about it.I remember
>>from when my Aunt was sick with cancer chemo was like a poisen to
>>her...poor soul.I dont know if I would want to use something like that
>>on my skin.
>>I have been at several websites looking for exactly what eflornithine
>>actually is all I get is the same answere... used for african sleeping
>>sickness and for reduction of hair growth..the hair does not fall
>>out..it just stops growing while your using it.
>>I wish there was more information on EXACLT what it is chemical wise..is
>>it an antiandrogen?is it testosterone derivative? is it aromatase (which
>>turns androgens to estrogens in the skin)? I wish I knew for sure..I
>>think it is still to knew on the market to really get all the answeres
>>yet. All I know is that it works. I have had Laser tx which was
>>wonderful and using Vaniqa as well now and I am having great
>>results...remember you have to remove the hair in some way before using
>>vaniqa.
>>anon...sorry about my spelling..i'm a typo queen
>>
>>At Fri, 16 Mar 2001, anonymous@obgyn.net wrote:
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>>>Actually, the active ingredient in Vaniqa is a low dose of a drug used
>>>in chemotherapy (which causes the hair to fall out). Which is why if
>>>you stop using the cream, the hair comes back (just like chemo).
>>>
>>>At Thu, 15 Mar 2001, robyn wrote:
>>>>
>>>>At Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Zowie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I have a really stupid. If testosterone causes the hair growth, then
>>>>>how can a cream form of it get rid of it??
>>>>>
>>>>I'm not sure about this, but here's my attempt at an explanation. :)
>>>>
>>>>Everyone has testosterone in their bodies - in most women, the estrogen
>>>>and testosterone balance out. That's why some of the women with PCOS
>>>>don't suffer from the acne, hair growth, or hair loss that the others of
>>>>us do. We just have an imbalance, and that makes the effects of having
>>>>it more pronounced. The excess testosterone in our bodies is considered
>>>>to be "free testosterone". I believe that the testosterone on our
>>>>scalps is considered to be DHT (or something like that - different from
>>>>the free testosterone) and the hair follicles react to that, causing
>>>>hair loss, or lack of hair growth. That's why things like rogaine work
>>>>- that product removes the DHT from the scalp, thus enabling the hair to
>>>>regrow or at least stop falling out. I think that this cream is acting
>>>>almost like a reverse rogaine - it's making the hair stop growing or
>>>>fall out. And, just like if you stop using rogaine on your scalp your
>>>>hair will start to fall out again, if you stop using vaniqua on your
>>>>face, the hair will start to grow again. That's also probably why the
>>>>cream can cause side effects like acne - the testosterone probably
>>>>causes it.
>>>>
>>>>Again, I am not sure about this at all, but it's my explanation. :)
>>>>Maybe someone else will know...
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Robyn
>>>>
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