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Re: CLARA Re: PCO DIAGNOSIS 17 YEARS AGO

From: Avalos (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Thu, 20 Apr 2000 13:40:23 -0500


Amy:

I read in a later post that your appointment went well.. I am truly glad to know this!

In answer to your question about sites, I found the info at http://www.ncenter.com/carbcharts... This one was the easiest for me, since it lists all kinds of foods, even prepared foods/meals...

Let me know how it goes!

Clara -----Original Message----- From: Amy Crowe [mailto:anonymous@obgyn.net Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 10:07 AM To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS-MEDICATION Subject: Re: CLARA Re: PCO DIAGNOSIS 17 YEARS AGO

Hi Clara - I have printed this message and I think I may go look for nutritional values as you did...Any sites that you know off hand???

Anyway - My dr. apt is in an hour, so we will see I guess...

"Avalos, Clara" wrote:

> Hi Amy, how are you? I've been reading the posts sporadically this week
> (work has suddenly become crazy); I thought I saw one from you regarding a
> doctor's appointment... Did you go? Any news?
>
> In answer to your question, yes, I have lost some weight... it's kind of
> weird. I mean, it's not at all like losing weight with diet pills or on
one > of those fad diets (I tried so many of them!). It's just a few pounds a
> week (like two or three), but that is without any exercise at all. I'm a
> bit of a workaholic, and I have difficulty finding time to exercise...
With > that said, I am also noticing that I am not as fatigued as I was before
> taking the metformin. My body just feels "better"....
>
> The low carb diet really isn't hard to do. I am not actually following any
> one program, like Atkins or Zone or Sugar Busters. I just pulled down a
> bunch of nutritional charts off the web where all sorts of foods are
> classified by group/type, & listed with all their individual nutritional
> values, picked the ones from each group that were the lowest in carbs, and
> ignored completely the high-carb groups, and decided that these foods
would > be the staples of our diet. In addition to the meat/fish/chicken/eggs/
that > I cook, I make rice or pasta or potatoes for my husband. I just don't eat
> them. For each meal I also prepare a dish of some kind of vegetables that
> are low in carbs, either raw or cooked. And I go nuts with the
> seasonings/different cooking techniques/ethnic flavors... So one night it
is > Indian style meat with cauliflower, another night it is Thai curry chicken
> and green beans, another night it is Mexican chipotle grilled salmon with
> steamed swiss chard in lemon-garlic-olive oil sauce, another it is Greek
> seasoned ground lamb burgers with green beans cooked with fresh tomato and
> olive oil.... I've always made these foods, I just always ate the
> rice/pasta/potatoes or included high-carb veggies that I now skip.
>
> In addition to the above examples, I am eating moderate amounts of some
> other veggies and a few fruits, to get my vitamins.... And I've actually
> been drinking more water without even forcing myself to do so.. (I think
> this might be metformin related, too, since I am noticing that my skin has
> gotten really dry and itchy since I started taking the metformin.... I
> wonder if anyone can tell me if Metformin has a dehydrating effect.)
>
> Anyway, I am keeping my fingers crossed... And I am going to start scaling
> back at work so that I can make time to exercise again. I have a feeling
> that now that I am taking metformin, it will not be so hard to shed the
> pounds.. I will definitely let you know how it goes!
>
> I've been reading your posts, and I know how you have been feeling,
between > the weight & the other symptoms and how they affect your whole life...
> Sometimes when I read your posts, it's as though you have written what I
> think or feel.... You have been in my thoughts and prayers. Take care!
>
> Clara
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amy Crowe [mailto:amy.crowe@trism.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 9:19 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS-MEDICATION
> Subject: CLARA Re: PCO DIAGNOSIS 17 YEARS AGO
>
> Clara - Have you lost weight??
>
> "Avalos, Clara" wrote:
>
> > Cyrilla:
> >
> > I am low carbing, in addition to taking Met & Spironolactone, and while
> I'm
> > not having problems with the low-carb style diet, the killer is always
my > > crazy sweet tooth.... Especially for all things chocolate.
> >
> > I don't completely cut out chocolate... I would go crazy if I tried.
So, > > instead of making sweets the spontaneous treat that they always used to
> be,
> > now every other day I will have 1 small piece of chocolate candy after
> > dinner. Since I am limited to this, I splurge and buy the "good stuff"
> > (Belgian chocolate or something equally scrumptious), and that makes it
> > worthwhile. Other times, when I am going nuts, I will make a cup of
chai > > (that tea-like drink that they now sell at Starbuck's & coffee & tea
shops > > everywhere). I sweeten it with Equal, and that does the trick...
> >
> > The key to my sweet intake is, whenever I know I am going to have
> chocolate,
> > I cut out some other food with higher carbs in it, to kind of balance
> > things. It's not scientific by any means, but it seems to work well for
> me.
> >
> > Clara
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cynthia Moller [mailto:cyrilla@ix.netcom.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 10:47 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS-MEDICATION
> > Subject: Re: PCO DIAGNOSIS 17 YEARS AGO
> >
> > Darn, you mean its all those yummy carbs and not the hormones!!!
> >
> > What do people who are lo-carbing it do when they have a real strong
sweet > > tooth?
> >
> > Thanks for sharing, its great to know that I have some support.
> >
> > Cyrilla
> >

>> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Kathy <jkmaxson@noble.cioe.com>
> > To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS-MEDICATION
> > <pcos-medication@forum.obgyn.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 6:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: PCO DIAGNOSIS 17 YEARS AGO
> >
> > > I was first diagnosed about 14 years ago, and was also told that it
was > > > no big deal. The answer was BCP. I wanted to have a baby, so I was
> > > given Provera and Clomid. I also have 2 "Clomid" babies that I thank
> > > God for everyday. Especially now since I know how PCOS affects
> > > fertility! I went along with the "no big deal" theory for quite a
while > > > until my GYN told me that it was not good for me to go without
periods. > > > (I never have a period unless it is drug-induced.) Personally, I never
> > > thought it was a problem!! But, after he pointed out all of the bad
> > > things that can happen, I decided to do something. He put me on
Provera > > > for a period each month, and that was that. Once I got hooked up to
the > > > internet, I did my own research, and I was so suprised to find out
that > > > all of the other symptoms I had were related to my not having periods!
> > > My facial hair, my weight gain, my depression. The bad part is
finding > > > all of this info., and not being able to find a doctor who understands
> > > any of it!
> > >
> > > I am going to see Dr. Glueck from the Jewish Hospital in Cincinnati
> > > next week, and I am really hopeful. He is a leader in the insulin
> > > connection to PCOS, and I really hope that he can help. I know of one
> > > person who has seen him, and she told me that he was very
understanding. > > > Right now I am on 1500mg of Met. per day, and I haven't had a period
> > > since February.
> > >
> > > About the anger - I do have some days when I can just fly into a rage.
> I
> > > notice that it is usually after a binge of sugar or carbs. I really
had > > > emotional ups and downs on Clomid.
> > >
> > > Glad to have you on board! Kathy
> > >
> >
>




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