Re: AMY: Re: Sounds like I'm backwards compared to everyone else
From: Amy (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:01:52 -0400
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I know that if I can get out of this emotional hole that I am in then I will be
okay...I am tired of being sad. I binge real bad when I get real emotional and
that has a lot to do with my weight...It is one big circle....I get sad because I
binge and binge because I am sad...
But it is wonderful to know that I am not alone in this and that I have you guys
to talk to when I need it.
"Avalos, Clara" wrote:
> mmm-hmmmmm... she put into words the kind of encouragement that I was trying
> to write to you yesterday...
> Just knowing that someone who has been where we are, and who has felt the
> way we do, is doing so well is a terrific feeling for me. Makes me think
> that I can get there, too. Makes me hope that we all can.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amy Crowe [mailto:amy.crowe@trism.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 9:22 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS-MEDICATION
> Subject: Re: AMY: Re: Sounds like I'm backwards compared to everyone
> else
>
> Monique is a very sweet encouraging person isn't she
>
> "Avalos, Clara" wrote:
>
> > Monique:
> >
> > Thanks for your encouragement! I am thinking that, as we continue to stay
> > focused on breaking the old cycle and starting a new, healthier cycle, my
> > husband and I will fall into a pattern similar to what you have described.
> > In any case, that is our ultimate goal.
> > You sound very confident and happy and it is wonderful to read your words
> > and to feel the hope in them!
> >
> > Thanks for starting my day on such a positive note!
> >
> > Clara
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: krmason@sprint.ca [mailto:krmason@sprint.ca]
> > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 7:04 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS-MEDICATION
> > Subject: Re: AMY: Re: Sounds like I'm backwards compared to everyone
> > else
> >
> > Clara:
> >
> > I read your post to Amy. Congratulations, sounds like you're taking
> > some wonderful steps towards a happy, healthful way of life (which is
> > not always easy for us PCOSers. For what it's worth, I've also been
> > where you were (although I have never tried Prozak or anything like it)
> > but the ups and downs were the same. Almost every six months, a new
> > diet/exercise plan hits the market and people rave about it. I've tried
> > every one and inevitably found them either to difficult to incorporate
> > into my homelife (especially with kids at home) or in some cases too
> > expensive. I've joined fitness classes and bought countless exercise
> > machines and they all ended up in the basement collecting dust. Because
> > it was so hard to conceive, when my first child was born I realized,
> > although HE would never have PCOS problems, I didn't want him to suffer
> > through the emotional problems and insecurities I lived with from being
> > overweight so I changed my outlook. I took everything I learned from
> > the many diets, threw out what didn't work, didn't fit into our
> > lifestyle, and began eating foods we liked, that were healthy, cost
> > effective and fun to eat. We eat REDUCED Fat, sugar, salt, but do not
> > eliminate them. We treat carbs etc., as an additive to our meals, not
> > the main course and exercise, well, we got rid of all of our exercise
> > machines and now we simply go for walks, play with our kids and do
> > housework with a vengeance. Believe me, when you make living life happy
> > and healthy your goal rather than living life slim your goal, everything
> > else, with a lot of patience and support, just seems to fall into place.
> > I found that if I also concentrated on my strenghts and qualities, the
> > flaws I saw seemed to retreat and were no longer very important.
> >
> > Sorry for running on.
> >
> > Monique
> >
> > At Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Avalos, wrote:
> > >
> > >Amy:
> > >
> > >I am thinking that I am going to sound like a broken record in this
> > >discussion group but.... Don't change your medication dosage, change your
> > >doctor.
> > >
> > >I have days (lots and lots of them) when I feel just like you do... and
> it
> > >eats at me, at my self esteem, at my confidence... it makes me insecure
> and
> > >shy and it often makes me stay shut in the house when I could be out
> doing
> > >things with my husband and friends... I get incredibly depressed, I cry,
> I
> > >get headaches, I get mad, I want to be alone in a dark room by myself...
> > >happens too much for my own liking.
> > >
> > >Having tried the prescription Phentermine & Zoloft & Paxil, I've learned
> > >that all are only temporary fixes, and not one of them helped with the
> real
> > >problem: PCOS and my ability to stay focused on a goal, no matter how
> > >unreachable. (Note that as I write this I weigh 205 lbs.)
> > >
> > >My husband knows that I am ashamed to go out to walk or go to a gym
> because
> > >I am such a blob (or I feel like I am one); his solution? a treadmill and
> a
> > >new TV/Stereo in our extra room at home. Sometimes I go up there alone,
> > >sometimes he comes with me & just keeps me company. Just started with
> that
> > >a couple of weeks ago... It is painfully hard, as I am so out of shape
> and
> > >tired all the time, but I'll have to admit, I like it better than the
> other
> > >options of going out in public or just sitting on my butt in the family
> > room
> > >or in my office....
> > >
> > >Low carbing is probably the hardest thing for me, since I cook meals from
> > >scratch each night & on weekends.
> > >I haven't picked which diet (Zone or Atkins or Sugar-Busters) to follow,
> > but
> > >I've started collecting recipes, and I am going to learn to make this
> type
> > >of eating/cooking a routine in our household... It's going to be a tough
> > >sell since my husband is a HUGE carb fanatic... but it's not a matter of
> > >choice anymore for either of us... Me for my health, and him because he
> has
> > >to live with me!
> > >
> > >Here's another anecdote: We both took Prozac for a while early in our
> > >marriage (for different reasons). Neither of us experienced any weight
> > loss
> > >while taking it. Why on earth would your doctor suggest that Prozac will
> > >induce weight loss in you? Your doctor sounds.. less than up to date on
> > >PCOS and the related issues/problems & the most current treatments....
> > >
> > >Anyway, sorry to ramble on... I really hope you can start to feel better
> > >about yourself... I read your posts, and lots of them really hit home for
> > >me... Sometimes you write what I am thinking.... It's scary how similar
> to
> > >"me" you sound, physically & otherwise... Wish I could say something to
> > help
> > >you feel better....
> > >
> > >Clara
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Amy Crowe [mailto:amy.crowe@trism.com]
> > >Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 3:10 PM
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS-MEDICATION
> > >Subject: Re: AMY: Re: Sounds like I'm backwards compared to everyone
> > >else
> > >
> > >It is absolutely horrible - brings tears to my eyes thinking about it..I
> am
> > >one big 200 lb
> > >5'2" walking emotional disaster and I begged him for a weight loss
> > aid...He
> > >said "Up your
> > >prozak to 20 mg a day"....
> > >
> > >Monique Mason wrote:
> > >
> > >> Prozak...the amazing cure-all drug. Maybe I should have told my
> > >> specialist to go on Prozak...it may have helped his anxiety over my
> > >> (quote:"simple weight problem").
> > >>
> > >> At Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Amy wrote:
> > >> >
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> > >> >
> > >> >That is horrible...My Doctor just wants me to be on prozak for
> > >everthing...
> > >> >
> > >> >Monique Mason wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Well, I had a hard time conceiving and at first my GP thought it was
> > >> >> simply a case of excessive testosterone. Once my cycle became
> > >> >> irregular, he sent me to an infertility clinic where they did the
> > whole
> > >> >> work-up and diagnosed me then. Now back then, I guess they didn't
> > know
> > >> >> as much as they do now and figured, once they got me pregnant, there
> > >> >> would be no further problem: to quote the specialist: "If you want
> > your
> > >> >> symptoms to dissappear, you will have to lose weight or you can
> count
> > >on
> > >> >> dying of a heart attack by the time your 40". No other
> explanations.
> > >> >> Nice huh?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> At Fri, 07 Apr 2000, Amy wrote:
> > >> >> >
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> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >I am sorry - I should have clarified...what I ment was when and if
> I
> > >allow them to
> > >> >> >put me on the Met and/ or Spiro...I will gain instead of loose,
> have
> > >more hair on
> > >> >> >body, less on head...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >what made them diagnose you...under what symptoms?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Monique Mason wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> AMY: I'm new to this forum so I don't know your history. Are you
> > >taking
> > >> >> >> Met as well? How about spironolactone? My doctor put me on Met at
> > my
> > >> >> >> request, although he was informed and agreed it was a good idea
> but
> > >now
> > >> >> >> that it seems to be doing the opposite for me, I'm unsure if I
> > >should
> > >> >> >> give it more time, or ask him to take me off. Another question
> for
> > >> >> >> you...what PCOS symptoms do you experience? Everyone here seems
> to
> > >have
> > >> >> >> very few periods, acne, body hair, eating binges, etc. I have no
> > >acne,
> > >> >> >> no hair loss, no eating binges and these very very long, heavy
> and
> > >> >> >> frequent periods. Sometimes I think I was mis-diagnosed.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> At Thu, 06 Apr 2000, Amy wrote:
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> > >> >> >> >MONIQUE - THAT WILL PROBABLY BE MY LUCK!
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >"Mason, Monique" wrote:
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> I'm confused. I was diagnosed with pcos about 7 years ago,
> > given
> > >clomid
> > >> >> >> >> twice (have two wonderful boys), then not treated with any
> > >medication
> > >> >> >> >> until two years ago when my doctor put me on cozaar for high
> > >blood
> > >> >> >> >> pressure and spironolactone for all other symptoms. He
> recently
> > >started
> > >> >> >> >> me on Met and I have now graduated from 500 to 1500 a day. My
> > >symptoms
> > >> >> >> >> (both before and after taking Met) seem to be backwards
> compared
> > >to all
> > >> >> >> >> of you. Although I am and have always been very overweight,
> > >excess
> > >> >> >> >> hair, etc., my menstrual cycle was as regular as clockwork
> until
> > >I began
> > >> >> >> >> (very briefly) the BCP. I never craved sugar (just the
> > opposite)
> > >and
> > >> >> >> >> had a very small appetite. After my pregnancies, my cycle
> > became
> > >> >> >> >> irregular and the spiro. put me back on schedule. Now that I
> > am
> > >taking
> > >> >> >> >> Met., my appetite has increased, my cycle has become irregular
> > >and I am
> > >> >> >> >> craving more sweets. I have had no other side effects from
> the
> > >Met
> > >> >> >> >> other than some bloating/gas. Any explanations for me out
> > there?
> > >> >> >> >> Perhaps two months on Met is not long enough to judge? Help.
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> --
> > >> >> >> >> Monique
> > >> >> >> >>
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> > >> >> >> >
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> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> --
> > >> >> >> Monique
> > >> >> >>
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> > >> >> Monique
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> > >> >
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> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Monique
> > >>
> >
> > --
> > Monique
> >
>
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