Re: AMY: Re: Sounds like I'm backwards compared to everyone else
From: Amy (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:20:46 -0400
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Monique is a very sweet encouraging person isn't she
"Avalos, Clara" wrote:
> Monique:
>
> Thanks for your encouragement! I am thinking that, as we continue to stay
> focused on breaking the old cycle and starting a new, healthier cycle, my
> husband and I will fall into a pattern similar to what you have described.
> In any case, that is our ultimate goal.
> You sound very confident and happy and it is wonderful to read your words
> and to feel the hope in them!
>
> Thanks for starting my day on such a positive note!
>
> Clara
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: krmason@sprint.ca [mailto:krmason@sprint.ca]
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 7:04 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS-MEDICATION
> Subject: Re: AMY: Re: Sounds like I'm backwards compared to everyone
> else
>
> Clara:
>
> I read your post to Amy. Congratulations, sounds like you're taking
> some wonderful steps towards a happy, healthful way of life (which is
> not always easy for us PCOSers. For what it's worth, I've also been
> where you were (although I have never tried Prozak or anything like it)
> but the ups and downs were the same. Almost every six months, a new
> diet/exercise plan hits the market and people rave about it. I've tried
> every one and inevitably found them either to difficult to incorporate
> into my homelife (especially with kids at home) or in some cases too
> expensive. I've joined fitness classes and bought countless exercise
> machines and they all ended up in the basement collecting dust. Because
> it was so hard to conceive, when my first child was born I realized,
> although HE would never have PCOS problems, I didn't want him to suffer
> through the emotional problems and insecurities I lived with from being
> overweight so I changed my outlook. I took everything I learned from
> the many diets, threw out what didn't work, didn't fit into our
> lifestyle, and began eating foods we liked, that were healthy, cost
> effective and fun to eat. We eat REDUCED Fat, sugar, salt, but do not
> eliminate them. We treat carbs etc., as an additive to our meals, not
> the main course and exercise, well, we got rid of all of our exercise
> machines and now we simply go for walks, play with our kids and do
> housework with a vengeance. Believe me, when you make living life happy
> and healthy your goal rather than living life slim your goal, everything
> else, with a lot of patience and support, just seems to fall into place.
> I found that if I also concentrated on my strenghts and qualities, the
> flaws I saw seemed to retreat and were no longer very important.
>
> Sorry for running on.
>
> Monique
>
> At Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Avalos, wrote:
> >
> >Amy:
> >
> >I am thinking that I am going to sound like a broken record in this
> >discussion group but.... Don't change your medication dosage, change your
> >doctor.
> >
> >I have days (lots and lots of them) when I feel just like you do... and it
> >eats at me, at my self esteem, at my confidence... it makes me insecure and
> >shy and it often makes me stay shut in the house when I could be out doing
> >things with my husband and friends... I get incredibly depressed, I cry, I
> >get headaches, I get mad, I want to be alone in a dark room by myself...
> >happens too much for my own liking.
> >
> >Having tried the prescription Phentermine & Zoloft & Paxil, I've learned
> >that all are only temporary fixes, and not one of them helped with the real
> >problem: PCOS and my ability to stay focused on a goal, no matter how
> >unreachable. (Note that as I write this I weigh 205 lbs.)
> >
> >My husband knows that I am ashamed to go out to walk or go to a gym because
> >I am such a blob (or I feel like I am one); his solution? a treadmill and a
> >new TV/Stereo in our extra room at home. Sometimes I go up there alone,
> >sometimes he comes with me & just keeps me company. Just started with that
> >a couple of weeks ago... It is painfully hard, as I am so out of shape and
> >tired all the time, but I'll have to admit, I like it better than the other
> >options of going out in public or just sitting on my butt in the family
> room
> >or in my office....
> >
> >Low carbing is probably the hardest thing for me, since I cook meals from
> >scratch each night & on weekends.
> >I haven't picked which diet (Zone or Atkins or Sugar-Busters) to follow,
> but
> >I've started collecting recipes, and I am going to learn to make this type
> >of eating/cooking a routine in our household... It's going to be a tough
> >sell since my husband is a HUGE carb fanatic... but it's not a matter of
> >choice anymore for either of us... Me for my health, and him because he has
> >to live with me!
> >
> >Here's another anecdote: We both took Prozac for a while early in our
> >marriage (for different reasons). Neither of us experienced any weight
> loss
> >while taking it. Why on earth would your doctor suggest that Prozac will
> >induce weight loss in you? Your doctor sounds.. less than up to date on
> >PCOS and the related issues/problems & the most current treatments....
> >
> >Anyway, sorry to ramble on... I really hope you can start to feel better
> >about yourself... I read your posts, and lots of them really hit home for
> >me... Sometimes you write what I am thinking.... It's scary how similar to
> >"me" you sound, physically & otherwise... Wish I could say something to
> help
> >you feel better....
> >
> >Clara
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Amy Crowe [mailto:amy.crowe@trism.com]
> >Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 3:10 PM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS-MEDICATION
> >Subject: Re: AMY: Re: Sounds like I'm backwards compared to everyone
> >else
> >
> >It is absolutely horrible - brings tears to my eyes thinking about it..I am
> >one big 200 lb
> >5'2" walking emotional disaster and I begged him for a weight loss
> aid...He
> >said "Up your
> >prozak to 20 mg a day"....
> >
> >Monique Mason wrote:
> >
> >> Prozak...the amazing cure-all drug. Maybe I should have told my
> >> specialist to go on Prozak...it may have helped his anxiety over my
> >> (quote:"simple weight problem").
> >>
> >> At Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Amy wrote:
> >> >
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> >> >That is horrible...My Doctor just wants me to be on prozak for
> >everthing...
> >> >
> >> >Monique Mason wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Well, I had a hard time conceiving and at first my GP thought it was
> >> >> simply a case of excessive testosterone. Once my cycle became
> >> >> irregular, he sent me to an infertility clinic where they did the
> whole
> >> >> work-up and diagnosed me then. Now back then, I guess they didn't
> know
> >> >> as much as they do now and figured, once they got me pregnant, there
> >> >> would be no further problem: to quote the specialist: "If you want
> your
> >> >> symptoms to dissappear, you will have to lose weight or you can count
> >on
> >> >> dying of a heart attack by the time your 40". No other explanations.
> >> >> Nice huh?
> >> >>
> >> >> At Fri, 07 Apr 2000, Amy wrote:
> >> >> >
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> >> >> >I am sorry - I should have clarified...what I ment was when and if I
> >allow them to
> >> >> >put me on the Met and/ or Spiro...I will gain instead of loose, have
> >more hair on
> >> >> >body, less on head...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >what made them diagnose you...under what symptoms?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Monique Mason wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> AMY: I'm new to this forum so I don't know your history. Are you
> >taking
> >> >> >> Met as well? How about spironolactone? My doctor put me on Met at
> my
> >> >> >> request, although he was informed and agreed it was a good idea but
> >now
> >> >> >> that it seems to be doing the opposite for me, I'm unsure if I
> >should
> >> >> >> give it more time, or ask him to take me off. Another question for
> >> >> >> you...what PCOS symptoms do you experience? Everyone here seems to
> >have
> >> >> >> very few periods, acne, body hair, eating binges, etc. I have no
> >acne,
> >> >> >> no hair loss, no eating binges and these very very long, heavy and
> >> >> >> frequent periods. Sometimes I think I was mis-diagnosed.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> At Thu, 06 Apr 2000, Amy wrote:
> >> >> >> >
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> >> >> >> >MONIQUE - THAT WILL PROBABLY BE MY LUCK!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >"Mason, Monique" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> I'm confused. I was diagnosed with pcos about 7 years ago,
> given
> >clomid
> >> >> >> >> twice (have two wonderful boys), then not treated with any
> >medication
> >> >> >> >> until two years ago when my doctor put me on cozaar for high
> >blood
> >> >> >> >> pressure and spironolactone for all other symptoms. He recently
> >started
> >> >> >> >> me on Met and I have now graduated from 500 to 1500 a day. My
> >symptoms
> >> >> >> >> (both before and after taking Met) seem to be backwards compared
> >to all
> >> >> >> >> of you. Although I am and have always been very overweight,
> >excess
> >> >> >> >> hair, etc., my menstrual cycle was as regular as clockwork until
> >I began
> >> >> >> >> (very briefly) the BCP. I never craved sugar (just the
> opposite)
> >and
> >> >> >> >> had a very small appetite. After my pregnancies, my cycle
> became
> >> >> >> >> irregular and the spiro. put me back on schedule. Now that I
> am
> >taking
> >> >> >> >> Met., my appetite has increased, my cycle has become irregular
> >and I am
> >> >> >> >> craving more sweets. I have had no other side effects from the
> >Met
> >> >> >> >> other than some bloating/gas. Any explanations for me out
> there?
> >> >> >> >> Perhaps two months on Met is not long enough to judge? Help.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> Monique
> >> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >> >fn:Amy R. Crowe
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> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >--------------710CCD6EEE6D4F933C60DD9E--
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Monique
> >> >> >>
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> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Monique
> >> >>
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> >> >title:Pricing Analyst - Commercial
> >> >adr;quoted-printable:;;4174 Jiles Road
> >> P.O. Box 9000;Kennesaw;GA;30144;USA
> >> >fn:Amy R. Crowe
> >> >end:vcard
> >> >
> >> >--------------A63656F5959DA2DEC99E327C--
> >>
> >> --
> >> Monique
> >>
>
> --
> Monique
>
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