Re: AMY: Re: Sounds like I'm backwards compared to everyone else
From: Avalos (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:11:24 -0500
Monique:
Thanks for your encouragement! I am thinking that, as we continue to stay
focused on breaking the old cycle and starting a new, healthier cycle, my
husband and I will fall into a pattern similar to what you have described.
In any case, that is our ultimate goal.
You sound very confident and happy and it is wonderful to read your words
and to feel the hope in them!
Thanks for starting my day on such a positive note!
Clara
-----Original Message-----
From: anonymous@obgyn.net [mailto:anonymous@obgyn.net
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 7:04 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS-MEDICATION
Subject: Re: AMY: Re: Sounds like I'm backwards compared to everyone
else
Clara:
I read your post to Amy. Congratulations, sounds like you're taking
some wonderful steps towards a happy, healthful way of life (which is
not always easy for us PCOSers. For what it's worth, I've also been
where you were (although I have never tried Prozak or anything like it)
but the ups and downs were the same. Almost every six months, a new
diet/exercise plan hits the market and people rave about it. I've tried
every one and inevitably found them either to difficult to incorporate
into my homelife (especially with kids at home) or in some cases too
expensive. I've joined fitness classes and bought countless exercise
machines and they all ended up in the basement collecting dust. Because
it was so hard to conceive, when my first child was born I realized,
although HE would never have PCOS problems, I didn't want him to suffer
through the emotional problems and insecurities I lived with from being
overweight so I changed my outlook. I took everything I learned from
the many diets, threw out what didn't work, didn't fit into our
lifestyle, and began eating foods we liked, that were healthy, cost
effective and fun to eat. We eat REDUCED Fat, sugar, salt, but do not
eliminate them. We treat carbs etc., as an additive to our meals, not
the main course and exercise, well, we got rid of all of our exercise
machines and now we simply go for walks, play with our kids and do
housework with a vengeance. Believe me, when you make living life happy
and healthy your goal rather than living life slim your goal, everything
else, with a lot of patience and support, just seems to fall into place.
I found that if I also concentrated on my strenghts and qualities, the
flaws I saw seemed to retreat and were no longer very important.
Sorry for running on.
Monique
At Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Avalos, wrote:
>
>Amy:
>
>I am thinking that I am going to sound like a broken record in this
>discussion group but.... Don't change your medication dosage, change your
>doctor.
>
>I have days (lots and lots of them) when I feel just like you do... and it
>eats at me, at my self esteem, at my confidence... it makes me insecure and
>shy and it often makes me stay shut in the house when I could be out doing
>things with my husband and friends... I get incredibly depressed, I cry, I
>get headaches, I get mad, I want to be alone in a dark room by myself...
>happens too much for my own liking.
>
>Having tried the prescription Phentermine & Zoloft & Paxil, I've learned
>that all are only temporary fixes, and not one of them helped with the real
>problem: PCOS and my ability to stay focused on a goal, no matter how
>unreachable. (Note that as I write this I weigh 205 lbs.)
>
>My husband knows that I am ashamed to go out to walk or go to a gym because
>I am such a blob (or I feel like I am one); his solution? a treadmill and a
>new TV/Stereo in our extra room at home. Sometimes I go up there alone,
>sometimes he comes with me & just keeps me company. Just started with that
>a couple of weeks ago... It is painfully hard, as I am so out of shape and
>tired all the time, but I'll have to admit, I like it better than the other
>options of going out in public or just sitting on my butt in the family
room
>or in my office....
>
>Low carbing is probably the hardest thing for me, since I cook meals from
>scratch each night & on weekends.
>I haven't picked which diet (Zone or Atkins or Sugar-Busters) to follow,
but
>I've started collecting recipes, and I am going to learn to make this type
>of eating/cooking a routine in our household... It's going to be a tough
>sell since my husband is a HUGE carb fanatic... but it's not a matter of
>choice anymore for either of us... Me for my health, and him because he has
>to live with me!
>
>Here's another anecdote: We both took Prozac for a while early in our
>marriage (for different reasons). Neither of us experienced any weight
loss
>while taking it. Why on earth would your doctor suggest that Prozac will
>induce weight loss in you? Your doctor sounds.. less than up to date on
>PCOS and the related issues/problems & the most current treatments....
>
>Anyway, sorry to ramble on... I really hope you can start to feel better
>about yourself... I read your posts, and lots of them really hit home for
>me... Sometimes you write what I am thinking.... It's scary how similar to
>"me" you sound, physically & otherwise... Wish I could say something to
help
>you feel better....
>
>Clara
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Amy Crowe [mailto:anonymous@obgyn.net
>Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 3:10 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS-MEDICATION
>Subject: Re: AMY: Re: Sounds like I'm backwards compared to everyone
>else
>
>It is absolutely horrible - brings tears to my eyes thinking about it..I am
>one big 200 lb
>5'2" walking emotional disaster and I begged him for a weight loss
aid...He
>said "Up your
>prozak to 20 mg a day"....
>
>Monique Mason wrote:
>
>> Prozak...the amazing cure-all drug. Maybe I should have told my
>> specialist to go on Prozak...it may have helped his anxiety over my
>> (quote:"simple weight problem").
>>
>> At Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Amy wrote:
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>> >That is horrible...My Doctor just wants me to be on prozak for
>everthing...
>> >
>> >Monique Mason wrote:
>> >
>> >> Well, I had a hard time conceiving and at first my GP thought it was
>> >> simply a case of excessive testosterone. Once my cycle became
>> >> irregular, he sent me to an infertility clinic where they did the
whole
>> >> work-up and diagnosed me then. Now back then, I guess they didn't
know
>> >> as much as they do now and figured, once they got me pregnant, there
>> >> would be no further problem: to quote the specialist: "If you want
your
>> >> symptoms to dissappear, you will have to lose weight or you can count
>on
>> >> dying of a heart attack by the time your 40". No other explanations.
>> >> Nice huh?
>> >>
>> >> At Fri, 07 Apr 2000, Amy wrote:
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>> >> >I am sorry - I should have clarified...what I ment was when and if I
>allow them to
>> >> >put me on the Met and/ or Spiro...I will gain instead of loose, have
>more hair on
>> >> >body, less on head...
>> >> >
>> >> >what made them diagnose you...under what symptoms?
>> >> >
>> >> >Monique Mason wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> AMY: I'm new to this forum so I don't know your history. Are you
>taking
>> >> >> Met as well? How about spironolactone? My doctor put me on Met at
my
>> >> >> request, although he was informed and agreed it was a good idea but
>now
>> >> >> that it seems to be doing the opposite for me, I'm unsure if I
>should
>> >> >> give it more time, or ask him to take me off. Another question for
>> >> >> you...what PCOS symptoms do you experience? Everyone here seems to
>have
>> >> >> very few periods, acne, body hair, eating binges, etc. I have no
>acne,
>> >> >> no hair loss, no eating binges and these very very long, heavy and
>> >> >> frequent periods. Sometimes I think I was mis-diagnosed.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> At Thu, 06 Apr 2000, Amy wrote:
>> >> >> >
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>> >> >> >MONIQUE - THAT WILL PROBABLY BE MY LUCK!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Mason, Monique" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> I'm confused. I was diagnosed with pcos about 7 years ago,
given
>clomid
>> >> >> >> twice (have two wonderful boys), then not treated with any
>medication
>> >> >> >> until two years ago when my doctor put me on cozaar for high
>blood
>> >> >> >> pressure and spironolactone for all other symptoms. He recently
>started
>> >> >> >> me on Met and I have now graduated from 500 to 1500 a day. My
>symptoms
>> >> >> >> (both before and after taking Met) seem to be backwards compared
>to all
>> >> >> >> of you. Although I am and have always been very overweight,
>excess
>> >> >> >> hair, etc., my menstrual cycle was as regular as clockwork until
>I began
>> >> >> >> (very briefly) the BCP. I never craved sugar (just the
opposite)
>and
>> >> >> >> had a very small appetite. After my pregnancies, my cycle
became
>> >> >> >> irregular and the spiro. put me back on schedule. Now that I
am
>taking
>> >> >> >> Met., my appetite has increased, my cycle has become irregular
>and I am
>> >> >> >> craving more sweets. I have had no other side effects from the
>Met
>> >> >> >> other than some bloating/gas. Any explanations for me out
there?
>> >> >> >> Perhaps two months on Met is not long enough to judge? Help.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Monique
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>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Monique
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>> >> --
>> >> Monique
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>> --
>> Monique
>>
--
Monique
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