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Re: diet help and carb cravings!: Vegetable Restrictions

From: Gayle (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:53:11 -0500 (CDT)


At Wed, 27 Mar 2002, tera wrote: >
>Hi!
>
>Good post, I just want to make sure that women don't get scared away.
>The Atkins diet does limit your veggies and fruits for the first two
>weeks (Induction) until you are well into ketosis. During the two weeks
>you are allowed about three small salads a day as well as a small amount
>of other veggies. I don't know about most people and I know that my
>diet wasn't that great before, but this is more veggies than I was
>eating before I was on Atkins!
>
>After Induction (only about two weeks) you raise the amounts of your
>veggies (above and beyond the three daily salads) and gradually add some
>fruits -- lower carb fruits (strawberries, etc.). Basically, most of
>the carbs you eat everyday on Atkins come from veggies and fruits. Most
>people think that if you're on the Atkins diet you are eating steak or
>bacon and eggs for every meal with nothing but a trace of the green
>stuff. That is not true. You do eat fruits and veggies -- you're just
>smart about eating them. I agree with you, we do need these veggies.
>Like you said, some people have to be more careful than others about how
>many carbs per day they can actually eat if weight loss is the goal.
>You're eating 50 per day. I gain weight on 50 per day. I obviously
>don't gain as much as I did on a few hundred per day but because I am so
>metabolically resistant, I gain.
>
>I agree with you that there are many methods out there on low carbing.
>If women are "scared" of Atkins they should try a different low carb
>plan. It doesn't matter what plan you're using as long as it's doing
>what the plan should do -- lower your carbs. If weight loss is your
>goal, though and you do have PCOS be prepared. You may have to drop
>your carb levels lower than the general population in order to lose.
>That is why Atkins is often very successful with PCOS sufferers. Take
>care and thanks for your helpful posts. God bless! Tera
>
>At Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Pat wrote:
>>
>>Your comments are the main reason I'm not personally comfortble with
>>Atkins, as I feel it is too limiting of even the vegetables that are
>>very low in carbs, and not starchy (eg: zuccini, lettuce, celery, etc).
>>I avoid fruits in general, expect for a few, but I feel these vegetables
>>really serve an important purpose, providing fiber and phytonutrients.
>>To limit them does not seem safe to me, and thus why I prefer to be
>>around 50 G of carbs/day, compared to the 200-300 recommeneded in
>>general by the USDA. Some folks tell me they are so sensitive to carbs
>>that they cannot control their weight unless they go onto lower carbs,
>>but I feel these vegetables are critical, and we do need them.
>>
>>I am not referring to starchy carbs, nor grains and pasta. These have a
>>different effect, and I can do without them most of the time. Of course
>>I +love+ them. I love sugar and chocolate. If you read many of the
>>diet books carefully, most restrict the starchy carbs, fruits, and other
>>carb sources, but don't limit these vegetables.
>>
>>Insulin resistance allows insulin levels to be high, and natural blood
>>sugar to not be used effectively. So, it seems logical that the goal is
>>to keep the blood sugar in a normal range, which keeps the insulin
>>levels low, and more helpful in our system. This is my take on it all,
>>though you might not agree.
>>
>>Another aspect of all of this is learning to accept ourselves, and
>>promote health. This invoves eating healthy food, getting exercise, and
>>respecting our bodies. This is true with PCOS. I know the focus is
>>losing weight, but look to wards the long term goals, not just the short
>>term ones.These are my opinions.
>>Pat
>
>--
>Tera
>

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How many grams of carbs is recommended per day for weight loss?
I know Atkins allows a minimal amount of carbs.  Also advise me
how many carbs are allowed after the initial 2 week period.

Thank you!!




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