PCOS-DIET Messages for August, 2003: Re: PCOS-DIET digest 1004

Hi Claire

My name is Jenni i am 21 and live in the United Kingdom, Scotland. I am very greatful that you have posted your message as i have tryed many diets and nothing seems to work. I dont have and spots but have a hairy face which i find quite embarrsing. You are very lucky to have a mother that will look through the web for you mine would to but she dosent really have a clue about computers. Could you send me some information on what you have learned and where to find out more if possible I WOULD BE VERY GREATFUL. I am 21 and was told on 6th January 2003 (the day before my 21st) that i had POCS. I have a general idea of what it is but info would be good.

HOPE to hear from you soon.

If you would like to talk i have another address Jenni_P_01@hotmail.com

Jenni

>From: anonymous@obgyn.net

>Reply-To: anonymous@obgyn.net

>To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS-DIET

>Subject: PCOS-DIET digest 1004

>Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 05:37:48 -0500

> PCOS-DIET Digest 1004

>Topics covered in this issue include:

> 1) I cured my PCOS!

> by cle_bee@hotmail.com (Claire)

> 2) Re: The Aktins Diet and PCOS

> by lynnylondis@aol.com (lyndy)

> 3) Re: The Aktins Diet and PCOS

> by MCDBB@aol.com

> 4) Re: Birmingham Cardiac Diet

> by anonymous@medispecialty.com (anonymous)

> 5) Re: PCOS-DIET digest 1003

> by "Jenni Malone"

> 6) pcos

> by anonymous@medispecialty.com (anonymous)

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>Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 10:07:21 -0500 (CDT)

>----------------------------------------------------------------------

>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Claire)

>To: anonymous@obgyn.net

>Subject: I cured my PCOS!

>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>

>To anyone interested in curing their PCOS and insulin resistance,

>A little background on me

>My name is Claire Oosthuizen, I am twenty years old and I am currently a

>student at Rhodes University in South Africa. I understand that a huge

>percentage of the American population has PCOS (I believe about 10

>percent of women), but only a tiny percentage of people are ever cured.

>Hopefully, reading this will inspire women with this disorder to take

>their health into their own hands. I am proud to say that I USED to

>have Polyciystic Ovary Syndrome. Today, my hormones are completely

>normal, I am ovulating normally, my weight is normal (although I would

>still like to lose a bit more), my skin isn’t perfect but I’m only

>twenty and it’s a huge improvement on what my skin used to look like!

>Two years ago, I was overweight, I had terrible acne - the crater

>causing kind on my cheeks that usually only boys get- and I started to

>notice an increase in facial and body hair. (You are supposed to be at

>least somebody’s mother before you have to worry about hairs on your

>chinny-chin-chin!) I went to my GP to speak to him about referring me to

>a dermatologist about my skin. I thought the weight was just due to my

>lack of will power, and the extra hair was just due to an unfair serving

>of bad genes! My GP was clever enough to perform the correct tests and

>sent me off to a Gynecologist who diagnosed me with Polycystic Ovary

>Syndrome (PCOS) and Insulin resistance (which is apparently the main

>cause of PCOS).

>I was put onto a contraceptive pill (Diane-35 and Androcure) to treat

>the PCOS as well as Metformin to treat the Insulin Resistance, however,

>my understanding of these medicines is that they subdue the symptoms of

>the disorder so that no more damage is done to the ovaries, but as soon

>as you come off these medicines you are back to square one: the symptoms

>reappear! So for me this solution was not a treatment, it was a way to

>protect my ovaries while we tried to find a cure. By “we” I mean mainly

>my mother who tirelessly searched the Internet for possible cures.

>The only case studies we found where the women successfully began

>ovulating again, were where the drugs were kicked out the window and

>huge lifestyle changes were made. I found one diet that was formulated

>by a gynecologist that consisted of eating plenty of phytoestrins such

>as soya and chickpeas as well as a whole concoction of herbs and

>supplements. But the main course of action that seems to be successful

>is converting to a low carbohydrate diet! Simple as that!

>I had read over and over that a low carbohydrate diet was the way to go!

>I resisted this option for months as I love my bread and rice and

>deserts and chocolate etc. I was also concerned about picking up weight

>if I ever went off the diet. Dr. Leslie Pleass, an Osteopath and

>Naturopath in Johannesburg, who I admire very much, advised me to avoid

>carbohydrates and prescribed various supplements. Eventually, the fears

>of possibly never having children kicked me into action. The decision

>to eat that way is big because it means that this is how you’ll eat for

>the rest of your life, it is not a quick fix, but it works. So I

>weighed up all my options: I could either be fat, pimply, hairy, have

>heart disease, thrombosis, eventual diabetes, infertility (the list goes

>on) while taking strong drugs every day, or I could give up

>carbohydrates! So I gave up carbohydrates and it’s really a lovely way

>to eat – very luxurious! Even if you love all of those unhealthy breads

>and deserts, trust me you get used to anything!

>Here is what I did to cure myself step-by-step:

>- I don’t think that being on the Pill for a short period is a bad idea

>as it is a quick way to fix acne, hirsutism, as well as protect your

>ovaries until your hormones are correct – as long as when you come off

>the Pill you are already doing the right thing so you don’t

>backtrack!!!!! I was on the Pill for about a year but I came off

>Metformin very quickly since it made me feel terrible and I don’t

>believe it is a cure anyway.

>- When I came off the Pill I started to take natural progesterone for

>two weeks out of the month - I stopped this after six months.

>- I took a range of supplements, here is a list: GTF chromium, zinc,

>calcium, magnesium, selenium, essential fatty acids, vitamin C and E,

>vitamin B comlex and Alpha lipoic-acid (I found that I felt best on

>FoodStateTM products). I also took a herb called Milk Thistle to aid

>liver function as the liver needs to get rid of all old hormones

>effectively.

>- I react badly to stress and I’m no doctor but I’m sure I gave myself a

>cyst from stress once. One thing I know is that your body can’t heal

>itself properly if you are very stressed – the best way to put natural

>sedatives into your body is via endorphins i.e. exercise is very

>important!

>- I had my amino acids checked out and I was found to be hugely lacking

>in fifteen out of twenty of the essential amino acids. The doctor who

>interpreted my results said that I couldn’t possibly be producing proper

>insulin which is a protein and that my body was probably producing a

>“pseudo-insulin” which is why it couldn’t be recognized by my cells and

>hence the insulin resistance. A possible cause of the whole mess?

>Anyway I also took an amino acid replacement supplement.

>- But the main thing that I did was follow the Dr. Atkins low

>carbohydrate diet and I’m positive that even if you didn’t do all the

>other things I did this would do the trick!

>My two cents about Low Fat diets

>It makes so much sense to me that a high carbohydrate/low fat diet is so

>dangerous! If you think about the whole hunter-gatherer theory, our

>bodies have evolved to deal with foods you can find on the ground or

>things that you could hunt so theoretically, we should only eat

>vegetables and meat. Processed, massed produced food is a relatively

>new concept. It is only recently that most people believe that

>overloading your body with sugar (via fat free bread and pasta and rice

>etc.) is healthy is it also recently that diabetes and insulin

>resistance and such have reached epidemic proportions, coincidence?

>Also, your cells need fats and oils to survive and in particular, you

>need to have plenty of good oils to produce hormones. If you have a

>hormone imbalance and you are following a low fat diet , from what I’ve

>learned this is a really bad idea! Again, I’m no doctor and any

>academics would find many gaps in my research, this is all just my two

>cents worth!

>Conclusion

>I have no medical qualifications and I all I know is what I have read

>and experienced, however, I have cured myself from PCOS and insulin

>resistance and as far as I’m concerned I deserve a medal! After I

>converted to the Dr. Atkins diet my hormones were completely normal

>after four months! I wish I could have been cured earlier so that I

>could address this to Dr. Atkins himself to tell him how grateful I am,

>I was very grieved to find out about his death – he was a truly great

>man and I owe my life to him!

>Good luck!!

>Regards,

>Claire Oosthuizen

>------------------------------

>Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 11:15:15 -0500 (CDT)

>------------------------------

>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (lyndy)

>To: anonymous@obgyn.net

>Subject: Re: The Aktins Diet and PCOS

>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>

>At Thu, 5 Jun 2003, anonymous@obgyn.net wrote:

> >

> >In February I started the Atkins diet. Two days later I ovulated by

> >myself, 4 days later I started a 3 1/2 week period. I have not ovulated

> >nor had a period on my own since.

> >

> >I told my doctor the only thing I have changed was my diet. Everything

> >else has stayed the same. He said it's not the diet. I am not

> >convinced.

> >

> >Since I am trying to get pregnant, I tried Clomid last month. Nothing.

> >i didn't ovulate, nor has my period come.

> >

> >I am very discouraged. I called Atkins, they have no one to ask. They

> >can't give advice over the phone. They just take your money and have no

> >support or info to give out when you have questions.

> >

> >Am I going crazy? I thought that this diet would be good for me with

> >PCOS. I would have rather not lost the 10 pounds and kept ovulating by

> >myself.

> >

> >Mary

> >

> >P.S. I have gone off of Atkins for almost 8 weeks, and still nothing is

> >having with my body.

>I have just discovered after 10 years that the PCOS I was diagnosed with

>was not just about pregnancy, and infertility. I have developed high

>blood pressure, hardening of the arteries, am pre-diabetic, and weigh 15

>stone. I went on the Atkins diet 4 months ago, and even sticking to it

>strictly only lost 6 pounds. So i went on the internet , and discovered

>that there is an underlying problem with most women with PCOS , and that

>is insulin resistance./insulin is a fat producing hormone, which in PCOS

>women is produced in excess. So what your body doesn't use converting

>sugar to energy , it stores as fat. So then i realised that i must have

>severe insulin resistance as the diet was not working , and checking my

>urine for ketones every day which you do on the Atkins diet , i realised

>that my insulin levels were stopping the process. my GP has today

>realised that all these terrible things that are happening to me is all

>to do with the PCOS, and has prescribed Metformin, which will help my

>body to use the insulin better, and thus lose weight. it will also help

>my blood pressure, although the hardening of the arteries cannot be

>reversed. I would say to all women with PCOS that it is not only about

>weight, hair loss,infertility etc , but more importantly, that without

>the correct diaagnosis and treatment, you run the risk of heart disease,

>stroke and diabetes.

>------------------------------

>Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 12:40:15 EDT

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>From: anonymous@obgyn.net

>To: anonymous@obgyn.net

>Subject: Re: The Aktins Diet and PCOS

>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>

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>Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 17:22:56 -0500 (CDT)

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>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (anonymous)

>To: anonymous@obgyn.net

>Subject: Re: Birmingham Cardiac Diet

>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>

>I tried the Cardiac diet. I lost 8 lbs. I didn't believe that it would

>work, but it did. It worked for my mother also. There's plenty of

>people in florida doing it now because of its effectiveness.

>At Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Phil wrote:

> >

> >At Fri, 26 Jul 2002, Pat wrote:

> >>

> >>I really don't know anything about it. Can you provide a link to a web

> >>site, or somewhere we can investigte ? Pat

> >>

> >>At Fri, 26 Jul 2002, Misty wrote:

> >>>

> >>>I want to know if anyone has tried the birmingham cardiac diet? And what

> >>>happened? I'm interested in starting it and I want to know if it works.

> >

> >http://shoptrolley.com/3-DayDietInDepth.htm

> >

> >Incidentally, nobody so far has come forward with the true origin of the

> >so-called "Birmingham Cardiac Diet."

> >

> >--

> >Phil

> >

>------------------------------

>Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 07:45:51 +0000

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>From: "Jenni Malone"

>To: anonymous@obgyn.net

>Subject: Re: PCOS-DIET digest 1003

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Hi there

I am 21 and was told 6 months ago that i had POCS, I went to the doctors in august last year thinking that i was pregnant as i hadnt had a period for 3 months and had sickness nearly everyday and weight gain. I was asked to take the test which came back unsure so i had to take a further 3 tests which 1 was positive and 2 negitive. I then got a bit worryed and asked what to do next i was booked in for an appointment the next week where i had a LOT of tests done for different things all of them were fine, so the doctor suggested that i stop taking the pill. I did stop still no periods i went back in december as i really felt unwell, i was tested again and again until in january they got a positive result. The doctor called my mobile and asked me to make an appointment, I did. The day before i turned 21 was the worst day of my life so far. I went in to the rrom where the doctor asked me to sit down this is normal. The doctor (a stand in as mine was off sick) said t!

>o me "Oh right i see that you have POCS you know that you will never be able to have kids okay is there anything else i can help you with" in the meantime i am sitting there very confused in tears not knowing whats going on. I went outside where my boyfriend and is friend were in the car waiting for me. I knocked on the window and collapsed in my boyfriends arms. The next day came and went and so did a few weeks i did nothing couldnt talk to hardly no-one couldnt bare to go to work or see my friends or family. In the time that i spent in the house i thing that it was 2 weeks i must have slept about 18 hours a day cause i didnt want anyone to see me i cryed myself to sleep everytime my head hit the pillow. Now it has been 30 weeks and 1 day since that doctor told me and i still dont have hardly any knowlage of whats going on. Im feeling better that i did but today im feeling not so good. If you could send me some information on the weight programme that you tryed cause i!

> dont want to spend the next how many years feeling like this i just couldnt handle it.

>width>

Thank you

Jenni (21)

>From: anonymous@obgyn.net

>Reply-To: anonymous@obgyn.net

>To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS-DIET

>Subject: PCOS-DIET digest 1003

>Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 05:36:53 -0500

> PCOS-DIET Digest 1003

>Topics covered in this issue include:

> 1) The Insulin-Restistance Diet book...wanting to know if anyone has lost a more than a few pounds?

> by anonymous@medispecialty.com (anonymous)

> 2) Re: Losing Weight

> by sdzcarter7@aol.com (Darlene)

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>Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 22:57:26 -0500 (CDT)

>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (anonymous)

>To: anonymous@obgyn.net

>Subject: The Insulin-Restistance Diet book...wanting to know if anyone has lost a more than a few pounds?

>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>

>hi i just got the book today and it sounds great and im thinking that it

>wouldnt be that hard to follow because i kinda already eat the way it

>says to eat hmmm that doesnt make sense but ok i have alot of the foods

>on hand that it mentions...so im wondering has anyone had any luck

>besides a few pounds......looking to hear from someone who has been on

>it longer than a few months....any info would be great!!!!

>------------------------------

>Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 00:11:59 -0500 (CDT)

>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Darlene)

>To: anonymous@obgyn.net

>Subject: Re: Losing Weight

>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>

>At Sun, 27 Jul 2003, sarah wrote:

> >

> >At Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Juanita wrote:

> >>

> >>At Thu, 1 May 2003, anonymous wrote:

> >>>

> >>>At Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Cindi wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>>At Sun, 9 Mar 2003, rebecca wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>>At Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Elizabeth wrote:

> >>>

> >>>>>>Hi, All these emails have been great, it really is nice to know your not the only one out there suffering from PCOS. I'm 21 and was told about 3 years ago i had PCOS. With all the other problems that come with PCOS, my main problem is the weight gain, i tried every thing but each time i have been dissappointed. After reading your email about how you lost so much weight, i have hope again. Please can you tell me your secret, i be so thankful.

> >>>

> >>>>>>I have been a PCOS sufferer since I was 21. I was always very thin 5'8

> >>>>>>and weighed 103 pounds. In two months at the age of 21 I gained 45

> >>>>>>pounds and my periods ceased to exsist. Since that time I have been

> >>>>>>through it all with this disease. Losing hair while gaining facial hair

> >>>>>>(now isn't that a kick in the teeth) weighing at heaviest 238 lbs, being

> >>>>>>told I would never have children. A doctor offering to wedge my

> >>>>>>ovaries...thank the Lord I didn't do that. Four endoscropic procedures,

> >>>>>>heavy periods, etc...

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>The blessings are in between this bouts I have managed to have two

> >>>>>>beautiful girls (We have not used birth control in 9 years and have

> >>>>>>never conceived again.) This past year I finally found a vitamin

> >>>>>>program/weight loss that has worked and have now gone from a size 18/20

> >>>>>>to a 10/12. It has taken 8 months to loose 40 lbs and 33 1/2 inches.

> >>>>>>Which while it is slow medically speaking we know it is healthier than a

> >>>>>>super fast weight drop. I have not had any issues with holding my

> >>>>>>weight down and in fact have lost quite a bit more inches than weight.

> >>>>>>The facial hair is still there but at least my hair is not falling out

> >>>>>>anymore and I am trying to walk 5 miles 4-5 days a week so my energy

> >>>>>>level is great.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>If anyone is interested in this program just write back... It really

> >>>>>>has help me. I am going to be 40 in a year & 1/2 and made up my mind I

> >>>>>>was not going to spend the next 20 years feeling unhealthy like I spent

> >>>>>>the last 17 regardless of my disease.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>--

> >>>>>>Elizabeth

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>--

> >>>>>i would like to know more information on how you lost the weight. I have gained about 40 pounds in the last three years. please. any information would be appreciated. thank you.

> >>>>>

> >>--

> >>yes could you please send me your plan, I'm now 40 pounds heavier that I want to be...

> >>

> >Yes! Please send me the diet info! Id be so happy and grateful

> >I have been feeling awful for about three years now since I was

> >diagnosed with pcos. It sound so wonderful-I eat

> >relatively small amounts - but i must admit it does tend to be bread and

> >potatoes i crave. I get very shaky if I dont eat them. I lead a very

> >active life - This makes no

> >difference-in fact I just seem to be getting muscular underneath the

> >fat.Please help me and send me details of the diet or anything

> >else that could help me. I would be so grateful as i really am getting

> >depressed at how unable i am to shift those pounds - I should

> >be slim-but im not!

> >Please help me!

> >regards

> >sarah jane dyer

> >

> >--

> >sarah

> >

> >--

> >sarah

> >

>Hello, I am 26 and have just found out i'm diabetic and have pcos. Would

>you mind sending me the information also? I don't know what to eat and

>have gained 55 pounds over the last five years, I feel tired all the

>time(not to mention moody), so any help would be great! Thankyou,

>Darlene

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>Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 04:30:18 -0500 (CDT)

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>From: anonymous@obgyn.net (anonymous)

>To: anonymous@obgyn.net

>Subject: pcos

>Message-ID: <anonymous@obgyn.net>

>i have just been diagnosed with pcos i am confused as i dont really know

>that much abput it. i am very overweight and need to know how to loose

>weight, do you have diet advice

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