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Re: PCOS-DIET digest 562

From: anonymous@obgyn.net
Wed, 17 Apr 2002 13:46:50 -0700


I have had PCOS for over 5 years now. I just started seeing a Rep. Endo who takes me seriously this past year and a half and he put me on the metphormin/glucophage 3 times daily for a total of 1500 mg daily. I can't eat any sugar, no caffeine, very little starch and light dairy products. I am adjusting to a new way of eating, lots of veggies, whole wheat on occasion, high fiber and no sugar. But I am still not losing a ton of weight. The first few months I lost 20 lbs. But gained a few back when they lowered my dose of glucophage for a while. Now I'm back on it, but the pounds aren't leaving this time. What is the advocare I keep hearing about and what are some things that might help me curve my snacking appetite, as well as at least jumpstart my weight loss that won't make me sick with the glucophage. Nothing seems to mix with these pills without making me sick at my stomach or cause diarreah.

Any thoughts?

Amber in Portland

pcos-diet@obg yn.net To: Multiple recipients of list PCOS-DIET <pcos-diet@mail.medispecialty.com> 04/17/2002 cc: 01:31 AM Subject: PCOS-DIET digest 562 Please respond to pcos-diet

PCOS-DIET Digest 562

Topics covered in this issue include:

1) anybody successful with low carbing? Guidelines? by spearson@espial.com (Susie) 2) OBGYN.net April Update by "OBGYN.net Community News" <newsletter@obgyn.net> 3) Hello fellow PCOSers by "Jensen, Selene (was Swanson)" <selene.jensen@weyerhaeuser.com> 4) Re: Advocare diet. by tricia4770@cs.com 5) Re: some information on Chromium and insulin resistence by anonymous@medispecialty.com (Leah) 6) Re: To Pat re: Processing by cnmpat@attbi.com (Pat Sonnenstuhl, ARNP, CNM, MS) 7) Be careful what you do, the weight comes back fast! by anonymous@medispecialty.com (Kyra )

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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 11:29:13 -0500 (CDT) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Susie) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To: anonymous@obgyn.net Subject: anybody successful with low carbing? Guidelines? Message-ID: <200204161629.g3GGTDg02352@mail.medispecialty.com>

Hello,

I'm 99% sure I have PCOS due to a family history of annovulation, weight issues, whacky hormones, etc. and I'm trying to conceive #2 (DD was conceived on Clomid). I'm still nursing, so I can't get Clomid, so I'm in the process of weaning DD slowly, but in the meantime, I'm lowering my carb intake. I really want to get pg fast as I miscarried 2 wks ago, and I can't bare the thought of not being pg when my due date rolls around. Has anybody had their cycles resume after low carbing? How quickly did you see a difference? I'm not overweight, will that lower the liklihood that I'll see a difference? And 'how low is low'? I'm trying to stick to around 60 grams of carbs a day, is that low enough? If you can post any good sites, I would really appreciate it.

thanks!

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Susie Pearson

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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 12:02:14 -0700 ------------------------------ From: "Jensen)" <anonymous@obgyn.net> ------------------------------ To: "'anonymous@obgyn.net'" <anonymous@obgyn.net> Subject: Hello fellow PCOSers Message-ID: <632059601600D411871200508B8E115C02C36A3B@emswtc9.weyer.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain

Hi,

My name is Selene, I have now known I have PCOS for a month... The dr i have now is wonderful... She gave me the name of a book that is great, It is called "The Insulin Resistance Diet", It is all about balancing the foods you eat... Any way... Are any of you newly diagnosed? Selene Jensen EC2-2B2 :O) selene.jensen@weyerhaeuser.com Weyerhaeuser Disability Management Phone: 253-924-3476 Fax: 253-924-4440 When you reach the end of your rope tie a knot and hang on... T. Jefferson

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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:54:46 -0500 (CDT) ------------------------------ From: anonymous@obgyn.net ------------------------------ To: anonymous@obgyn.net Subject: Re: Advocare diet. Message-ID: <200204161954.g3GJskh03586@mail.medispecialty.com>

At Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Lauree wrote: > >Hi Lori. > > I am currently on Advocare and also taking Glucophage 500mg daily, >and following my own modified Atkins diet. The sucess if wonderful >isen't it! I am taking the MSN -Gold with Metaboost and Catylast >also. What combination are you taking? My doctor did not believe >me when i said that this is curbing my appetite and cravings so well. >He said that with the amount of vitamins he would think I would be >hungry on them. I did give him............... >a few samples to try for himself and he said he felt more energetic >and I had to mention to him before handing him the samples that he did >have to eat since feeling so good on them and not feeling hungry you >somewhat forget to eat. My husband is on Advocare too and knowing >men loose weight and fat alot quicker he is doing super and he still >eats what he wants which makes me jealous but hey I can handle it now. >So far in 3 weeks I have lost 10 pounds and 4 inches. > >If you would like to email me feel free just include Advocare in the >subject line. > >Take care and hope to hear from ya >Lauree >

Lauree,

Are you still taking Advocare products? If so are you still having success? I am trying to decide if I want to try them. Several friends are on them and loosing weight like crazy! I want to make sure they are safe. Can you tell me anything to help me?

Trish >At Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Lori wrote: >> >>I am having great success with the Advocare diet and PCOS. Is anyone >>else on this plan, would love to network.

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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 17:47:35 -0500 (CDT) ------------------------------ From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Leah) ------------------------------ To: anonymous@obgyn.net Subject: Re: some information on Chromium and insulin resistence Message-ID: <200204162247.g3GMlZ920646@mail.medispecialty.com>

Shelly, I have a question. I have pcos and i was put on birth control pills to regulate my periods. My doctor told me that birth control causes insulin resistence. I was also told by a doctor a few years ago that i am very likely to get diabetes. If i took a Chromium Supplement would it help me balance out my insulin resistence and help my metabolism? Please email me back as soon as you can. Thank You for your time Sincerely, Leah

At Sat, 21 Oct 2000, Shelly wrote: > >3 C. Insulin Function and Glucose Tolerance >Perhaps best known for its functions in glucose and insulin metabolism >is the trace element chromium. Chromium is nutritionally essential for >normal insulin function . Inadequate chromium nutrition appears to be >widespread in the U.S. and other industrialized countries, and is >common in diabetic individuals. Of particular concern is that people >with diabetes appear to excrete excessive amounts of chromium, which may >further aggravate the condition. Chromium supplementation has been >shown to have beneficial effects without any documented side effects on >people with varying degrees of glucose intolerance ranging from mild >glucose intolerance to overt type 2 diabetes mellitus. Many clinical >studies show that chromium supplementation lowers blood insulin levels, >improves glucose tolerance and decreases hemoglobin glycosylation in >people with type 2 diabetes. It is believed that the positive effects >of chromium supplementation in diabetic individuals are simply the >results of correcting existing chromium deficiency, and do not involve >pharmacological effects. Experts, such as Richard Anderson, Ph.D. from >the U.S. Dept. of Agriculture at the Beltsville Human Nutrition >Research Center, recommend chromium supplementation in daily amounts of >200 to 1,000 mcg, depending on the severity of glucose intolerance or >type 2 diabetes.

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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 21:09:10 -0500 (CDT) ------------------------------ From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Pat) ------------------------------ To: anonymous@obgyn.net Subject: Re: To Pat re: Processing Message-ID: <200204170209.g3H29AV13878@mail.medispecialty.com>

Thanks for the information. I really agree with you. Pat

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Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 21:39:51 -0500 (CDT) ------------------------------ From: anonymous@obgyn.net (Kyra) ------------------------------ To: anonymous@obgyn.net Subject: Be careful what you do, the weight comes back fast! Message-ID: <200204170239.g3H2dpC10661@mail.medispecialty.com>

I was on a low-carb but free calorie diet (eat all the meat and cheese you want) for about a year, and I was down about 35 lbs, but had totally plateued. I hadn't lost even a pound in three plus months, and was getting desperate. I was still obese at 213lbs and wanted to be "normal". Sooooo then, last year I went from 213 lbs in early February to 178 lbs in mid April, losing 35 lbs in only two 1/2 months! At 5'7", I wasn't skinny, but I wasn't fat either, and boy, was I having fun!!! How did I do it? LOW FAT, LOW CAL and LOW CARB- I got serious, plain and simple. I'd have a protein shake OR scrambled egg whites for breakfast, grilled chicken breast, 2 pieces of sliced tomato and steamed veggies for lunch, then more grilled chicken or fish, steamed veggies and salad (with balsamic vinegar as dressing) for dinner. Snacks? Boiled egg whites. You would think I would have been starving but I wasn't, I was too motivated by the rapid loss, losing a clothing size every payday and shopping all the time :) But then, I made a HUGE mistake. I thought "you can't live without carbs forever, it's not good for you". So I went off the restricted carb diet and guess what...now I've gained 60 of the 70 total pounds back. I gained 40 of it in less than three months. When you have PCOS and Insulin Resistance, these changes have to be forever. I may have been able to increase fat and calories, but not sugar. I have proven that eating 3000 calories a day and less than 30g of carbs kept me at a stable weight, where 1500 calories with 90-120 grams of carb packed on all this weight. And, it's a vicious cycle. The carbs make you hungrier, crave more, etc. and the gained weight makes you depressed, so you eat more. I am getting back on track now and going to see a Rep Endo on the 29th of this month. Hoping glucophage will give me better long term alternatives. Anyway, this drug on forever, but I just wanted to save someone else since I've been through the pain of gaining all this weight back myself. Trust me, nothing tastes as good as skinny feels!!!!

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Good luck and take care,

Kyra

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