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Re: diet help and carb cravings!: Vegetable Restrictions

From: tera (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:20:40 -0600 (CST)


Hi!

Good post, I just want to make sure that women don't get scared away. The Atkins diet does limit your veggies and fruits for the first two weeks (Induction) until you are well into ketosis. During the two weeks you are allowed about three small salads a day as well as a small amount of other veggies. I don't know about most people and I know that my diet wasn't that great before, but this is more veggies than I was eating before I was on Atkins!

After Induction (only about two weeks) you raise the amounts of your veggies (above and beyond the three daily salads) and gradually add some fruits -- lower carb fruits (strawberries, etc.). Basically, most of the carbs you eat everyday on Atkins come from veggies and fruits. Most people think that if you're on the Atkins diet you are eating steak or bacon and eggs for every meal with nothing but a trace of the green stuff. That is not true. You do eat fruits and veggies -- you're just smart about eating them. I agree with you, we do need these veggies. Like you said, some people have to be more careful than others about how many carbs per day they can actually eat if weight loss is the goal. You're eating 50 per day. I gain weight on 50 per day. I obviously don't gain as much as I did on a few hundred per day but because I am so metabolically resistant, I gain.

I agree with you that there are many methods out there on low carbing. If women are "scared" of Atkins they should try a different low carb plan. It doesn't matter what plan you're using as long as it's doing what the plan should do -- lower your carbs. If weight loss is your goal, though and you do have PCOS be prepared. You may have to drop your carb levels lower than the general population in order to lose. That is why Atkins is often very successful with PCOS sufferers. Take care and thanks for your helpful posts. God bless! Tera

At Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Pat wrote: >
>Your comments are the main reason I'm not personally comfortble with
>Atkins, as I feel it is too limiting of even the vegetables that are
>very low in carbs, and not starchy (eg: zuccini, lettuce, celery, etc).
>I avoid fruits in general, expect for a few, but I feel these vegetables
>really serve an important purpose, providing fiber and phytonutrients.
>To limit them does not seem safe to me, and thus why I prefer to be
>around 50 G of carbs/day, compared to the 200-300 recommeneded in
>general by the USDA. Some folks tell me they are so sensitive to carbs
>that they cannot control their weight unless they go onto lower carbs,
>but I feel these vegetables are critical, and we do need them.
>
>I am not referring to starchy carbs, nor grains and pasta. These have a
>different effect, and I can do without them most of the time. Of course
>I +love+ them. I love sugar and chocolate. If you read many of the
>diet books carefully, most restrict the starchy carbs, fruits, and other
>carb sources, but don't limit these vegetables.
>
>Insulin resistance allows insulin levels to be high, and natural blood
>sugar to not be used effectively. So, it seems logical that the goal is
>to keep the blood sugar in a normal range, which keeps the insulin
>levels low, and more helpful in our system. This is my take on it all,
>though you might not agree.
>
>Another aspect of all of this is learning to accept ourselves, and
>promote health. This invoves eating healthy food, getting exercise, and
>respecting our bodies. This is true with PCOS. I know the focus is
>losing weight, but look to wards the long term goals, not just the short
>term ones.These are my opinions.
>Pat

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Tera



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