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Re: So you want to lose weight!
From: Alexis (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:09:00 -0600 (CST)
Geez...enough already! We try to believe that no one who posts here
means any harm. but, I can certainly understand how some posts do more
harm than good. For one person to post that we are all fat because we
sit all day long...and to assume that none of us get out and exercise is
wrong. And, to assume that a negative response to a negative post is
making a mountain out of a molehill is ridiculous.....these weight
issues are already mountains for many of us. The last thing I need to
hear myself is that while I sit at my computer a few times a week I'm
packing on the pounds. And, shame on me. Also, let us not forget that
there is more that 1 type of Diabetes....both differ in many ways.
Another thing...I don't think all women BLAME our weight on the fact
that we have PCOS....but, it is certainly not our fault that our weight
jumped God knows how many pounds in a short time without our changing
our diets or eating habits....therefore, to say that our obesity is our
fault is wrong. Honestly, the Anonymous post upset me...as see how it
upset others as well. Most of us realize that exercise is important in
weight loss...we are not idiots here. But, to come on so strong and to
(what felt like) degrade some of us is horrible. Maybe some folks
should rethink their posts before posting. If you have PCOS....you
should understand that it's a very delicate issue. Stressing the
importance of exercise & informing us about one's own experiences is a
good post....assuming that none of us do it and assuming that we are all
lazy & don't know what we are talking about is not a good post.
Again...this is just my opinions. And, on that...opinions are
GREAT....but opinions that hurt others are worthless.
At Wed, 23 Jan 2002, anonymous wrote:
>
>At Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Lisa wrote:
>>
>>Thank you for telling us what we already know. I get the distinct
>>impression you feel that we are a bunch of women looking for an easy out
>>or an excuse to be obese.
>>,I am speaking from experience,myself,I am offering advice.
>>Speaking for myself, that is definitely not the case. I'm a RN and have
>>also worked as a Jenny Craig consultant. You sound like me a decade
>>ago. I used to think women who blamed hormones for their weight gain
>>were either lying, or fooling themselves. Either way, I had the same
>>contempt for them as you do now. You see, I KNEW if my energy
>>expenditure
><<<clip>>>
>I don't have any contempt for overweight women-why should I?-I am obese
>and not afraid to tell anyone.
>>was more than my energy intake, then I WOULD lose weight, and had
>>myself. I lost 30 kg (66lbs) when I was 20 and kept it off for 10
>>years. Then suddenly, at the age of thirty, NOTHING I did seemed to
>>help. Working as a RN I walked about 15 km a day on the wards (don't
>>ask me what that is in miles, but it is a lot and nursing certainly
>>isn't sedentary). I also watched my weight, but no matter what I did I
>>packed it on. If I went on a 1000 cal diet, unlike 10 years earlier,
>>instead of losing 2 kg (4.4lbs) the first week, I'd be lucky if I lost
>>.5kg (1lb).
>>Walking on a ward,is not exercise-I am talking about activites that get the heart going!At least for twenty minutes or longer.Yes,I agree,you are not sedentary,that is not the point of all this at all.How do you live with yourself,your making a mountain out of a mowhill?
>Certainly starting another argument over nothing.Take some Zoloft and
>cool down somewhat,before you whack right out.I am certainly thankful
>that I didn't have you for a nurse.This was intended to get the ball
>going and help each other lose some weight,I didn't assume this would
>turn into an argument.Again,we are all voicing our own opinions.You had
>better get your facts straight about Diabetes before posting
>informations as such the above.Diabetes runs in my family and not
>everyone loses massive amounts of weight.
>>I'm sure you think you are being helpful by telling us something we
>>don't already know, but I can assure you, we've all heard it before. We
>>aren't looking for excuses or an easy way out. All *I* want is to be
>>NORMAL!
>>
>>Do you know much about diabetes? Are you aware that untreated diabetics
>>do not produce insulin, or not enough insulin? What happens if their
>>diabetes gets out of control? They LOSE weight (as well as destroying
>>their entire body). They lose weight by the bucketful! Excess insulin
>>(as in PCOS) converts everything you eat into fat.
>>Insulin resistence CAUSES obesity and that in turn compounds the problem
>>and it is more difficult to lose weight.
>>Of course I know about Diabetes,I wouldn't be at this site if I didn't
>><<walking is free to all.There is no charge for pounding the
>>pavements.>>
>>Not all with IR are obese!!!!!!
>>It isn't very pleasant in the 40 degree celcius (100 F) we are
>>experiencing in Australia, nor I imagine in the snow that my northern
>>sisters are experiencing. Including exercise IS important, but ISN'T
>>always easy, free, or in the case of women with young families,
>>logistically possible. Mind you, a recent survery conducted here,
>>showed that housewives were far more physically active than most workers
>>outside the home.
>><no comment>
>>>Personally,I think that these diseases do exhist,but you cannot cast blame on being overweight because of it.That is something that most of you do.>
>>
>><sigh> Haven't you got something better to do?
>><sigh>I am trying to give a little insight!
>>>I am assuming that I have offeneded someone out there.My intentions were not to do that.>
>>
>>Of course you are. You're telling us we're all sitting around eating
>>bon bons, looking for excuses. We don't need advice like that. We just
>>want the same level playing field as everyone else, we don't want an
>>easy out, we just want what YOU take for granted.
>>I DON'T TAKE THIS FOR GRANTED!The last comment was a joke!Sorry for offending you.Geez,talk about raging hormones.
>
>>I'm a firm believer in what goes around, comes around, it certainly
>>happened to me. I used to think like you. I wouldn't wish PCOS on
>>anyone, but it is certainly tempting to wish it on you ;-)
>>
>>FYI,I HAVE PCOS!,and I most definitely wouldn't wish it on YOU!
>>--
>>Lisa
>>
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