Re: What do you mean by Low Carb....Leslie? Jo-Nita? Anyone with Success...
From: Joanna (anonymous@obgyn.net)
Sat, 14 Jul 2001 09:06:35 -0500 (CDT)
While I appreciate your opinion, and understand some of the
environmental implications of meat-eating from reading "Diet for a Small
Planet", there are conflicting medical opinions on the pros and cons of
various diets, so I think we all need to weigh the pros and cons for
ourselves.
Let's also consider the costs of eating Twinkies and Cocoa Puffs:
- over packaged (plastic & paper)
- over marketed (some paper)
- transportation costs
- polution due to processing, packaging and transportation
- recycling costs
- landfill costs for those in areas where recycling programs do not
exist, or simply ignorant people
- health costs...How can over processed food like these be good for us?
Is it natural to pick a Twinkie off a Twinkie tree?
- health care costs
Believe it or not, I was once a vegetarian due to being an animal rights
advocate. I would much prefer to see someone eating some meat over a
box of highly processed crackers, Twinkies, or Cocoa Puffs. I don't
want to get into a political debate. Let's just give people the facts,
and not try to persuade them since we all have different values and
opinions (even in the medical community).
Unfortunately, how people look on the outside is sometimes reflected by
how they feel on the inside...particularly when you experience
discomfort walking down the street...and the only thing that fits is a
moo-moo. I think it's ok to try to lose weight quickly, to get to a
comfortable weight, not Twiggy skinny, to relieve depression and give
someone hope.
I would recommend reading both Protein Power by Drs. Eades, as well as
Diet for a Small Planet by Frances Lappe.
--
Joanna
Pro-choice!
At Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Amanda wrote:
>
>Please. I wish that our population, both male and female, would
>actually sit down and THINK about the repurcussions of their actions.
>Losing weight and feeling "great" by the Atkin's diet can only last so
>long until one's body and organs decide to give out. A high-protein
>diet that mostly consists of animal fat is quite possible the worst
>thing that one can do to one's body, not to mention the ecological
>damages that occur as a result of this excessive way of eating. The
>most common cause of death in the US is heart attack. The average
>American man (not even on the Atkin's diet) has a 50% risk of death from
>a heart attack. The risk of death for the average American man who
>consumes no meat? 15%. James Garner was paid by the Meat Board to sell
>beef by the slogan of "Real Food for Real People." In 1988, he underwent
>quintuple coronary artery bypass surgery.
>To the individual who said that America has the greatest distribution
>system the world has ever known, he failed to mention that a child
>starves to death every 2.3 seconds. This is not from LACK of food-there
>is plenty to go around. It is the distribution system itself where the
>fault lies. Over 80% of the grains grown in the United States go to
>feeding LIVESTOCK. But we Americans, built up by our comfortable
>housing, SUVs, summer homes, and clean, accessible water, are so far
>removed from this fact that we don't see, and don't care, to enter this
>into our way of thinking. It would be too difficult.
> Here are a few facts to think about:
>
> *Water needed to produce one pound of wheat: 25 gallons
> *Water needed to produce one pound of meat: 2,500 gallons
>*Production of excrement by total US human population: 12,000 pounds/sec
> *Production of excrement by total US livestock: 250,000 pounds/sec
>
>Sewage systems are common and expected in US cities and towns. The
>amount of sewage systems that are found in US feedlots? Nil. Over half
>of wells and surface streams in the US are contaminated by agricultural
>pollutants. That is the water that we ingest, and that we pay from our
>pocket to try and keep clean.
>
>If you are going to eat meat, please, do it moderately. The long-term
>effects of a high protein diet such as the Atkin's diet can only hurt
>your body and the environment. The choices that each of you make are
>important, so please educate yourself about the danger and the potency
>of your decisions. Feeling good about yourself, losing weight safely
>and healthily, and making a positive impact on those around you can only
>be facilitated by an internal change in YOU. Losing weight fast and
>slimming up quickly so you can fit into that dress or look good in your
>swimming trunks is not the way to go about it. If you truly want to
>make a difference in your outer appearance, start within. Don't be
>stuck on what you look like, focus on how you want to feel. It is the
>most selfless thing that you can do-your body, and the planet will thank
>you.