Re: Authorship for a manuscript

From: Bernard Cristalli (bcrist@club-internet.fr)
Sat Mar 27 10:20:28 1999


The order is a matter of agreement (gentleman's agreement). The only thing is that it has to be decided before the paper is written. If everybody is honest the ones that writes is the first one.

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Ricardo Savaris a écrit:

> I have a situation to ask for the group. Criteria and order for authorship. > Which is yours? what are the implications (which bibliographical references) > for a case like this: > > The dean of a department is willing to start a new project on a subject that > he has no knowledge. He asks a post grad student to do a research on this > subject. He gives the main idea for the thesis. During the negotiation for > authorship the dean gives the following proposal: "I will accept to be your > supervisor for Ph.D. only if I end up as first author in the paper that will > be published from it ". The student is forced to agree because he has no way > out. > > The work was done and each author did the following: > > Dean: gave the main idea for the project, offered the facilities to collect > the exams, review the discussion section for the Ph.D. thesis. He did not read > the paper sent to the journal. > > Dean2 (from the other department): gave the facilities and the material to > analyze the samples, participate on the analysis and interpretation of the > samples. > > Student: Design the project, collect, processed, analyzed and interpreted the > samples, writes the manuscript based on his thesis. > > The manuscript is sent to the journal in the following order of authorship: > Dean1, student,dean2 > > Dean2 does not agree with the order of authorship and doesn't want to sign the > consent for authorship. He believes that the student should be the first > author, or must be a way out where people should know that the student did the > substantial contribution of the manuscript. > > Questions: > 1. What are the implications for this case if the Dean1 keeps as first author? > > 2. Solutions for this situation? > > Ricardo Savaris, MD,MSc, TEGO > Porto Alegre, RS > Brazil > 55 51 3211944

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Bernard Cristalli MD CNGOF
AIHP - ACCA
Paris - France
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