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Re: OB: poor outcome From: art fougner, md (evsono@pipeline.com) Wed Jun 17 13:07:15 1998 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: art fougner, md: "Re: chronic pelvic pain and ureaplasma" Previous message: Patrick S. Pevoto, M.D.: "Porphyria and OCA's" In reply to: zygote@ICSI.Net: "Re: OB: poor outcome" Next in thread: Dr Eberhard W Lisse: "Re: OB: poor outcome" Reply: Dr Eberhard W Lisse: "Re: OB: poor outcome" kielland's is a kielland's is a kielland's. midforceps by any other name is still a midforceps. el - you're gettin mighty testy these days. garry, you didn't get the erb's, the infant did. let's hope this child recovers asap! good luck. art ps i used to call these 'vaginal c-sections'. by the time i finished all the suturing pf the sulcus tears and the epis extensions, left the foley in place and ordered the second unit of blood, i wondered how much i saved by not doing a c-section. At Wed, 17 Jun 1998, zygote@ICSI.Net wrote: > >Date sent: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 00:55:58 -0500 >Send reply to: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net >From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@linux.lisse.na> >To: Multiple recipients of list <ob-gyn-l@talk.obgyn.net> >Subject: Re: OB: poor outcome > >Since the ACOG tech bulletin changing definitions of forceps, I have continued >to use the prior definitions for myself. The info about the case below confirms >that a midforceps is a midforceps regardless of how you want to medically- >legally change things by changing your definitions. I don't know how the rest of >the OB world views this, but my 2 cents. > >> Garry, >> >> In message <199806170128.UAA02774@talk.obgyn.net>, Garry E. Siegel, M.D. writes: >> > At Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Garry E. Siegel, M.D. wrote: >> >> > >dilated rapidly to complete under an epidural, with an EFW of 3700g. She >> > >pushed for 3 hours, and had an arrest of descent at +2, LOT despite >> > >adequate pit per IUPC and seemingly adequate pushing. Kiellands later >> > >(+2, LOT to OA and out--don't ya love calling this "low forceps with >> > >rotation?"), it's out, but I may have gotten an Erb's, and sewed up a >> > >sidewall laceration for a while. > >Robert J. Carpenter, Jr., MD >St. Luke's Medical Tower #2720 >6624 Fannin, Houston, TX 77030 >zygote@icsi.net 713-795-4600 >FAX:713-795-4422 -- art fougner, md SonoScan/Genetic Sciences forest hills, ny evsono@pipeline.com Next message: art fougner, md: "Re: chronic pelvic pain and ureaplasma" Previous message: Patrick S. Pevoto, M.D.: "Porphyria and OCA's" In reply to: zygote@ICSI.Net: "Re: OB: poor outcome" Next in thread: Dr Eberhard W Lisse: "Re: OB: poor outcome" Reply: Dr Eberhard W Lisse: "Re: OB: poor outcome"

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