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Re: forceps or vaccum extractor & ADD or mental retardation From: art fougner, md (evsono@pipeline.com) Mon May 4 08:18:42 1998 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Robert J Woolley: "Re: forceps or vaccum extractor & ADD or mental retardation" Previous message: R. Daniel Braun, M.D.: "Birth circumstance Poll" In reply to: Linda: "forceps or vaccum extractor & ADD or mental retardation" Next in thread: Malcolm Griffiths: "Re: forceps or vaccum extractor & ADD or mental retardation" Reply: Malcolm Griffiths: "Re: forceps or vaccum extractor & ADD or mental retardation" Malcolm, now what is the reference for that one? that is one great bit of evidence and would be quite useful in the litigious USA. thanks art At Sun, 3 May 1998, Malcolm Griffiths wrote: > >In message <199805031715.MAA11083@talk.obgyn.net>, Linda ><Tnpeaks@msn.com> writes >>I would like to know if there has been any studies in the past or if >>anyone is currently working on a project that would connect the use of >>forceps and/or a vaccum extractor and the percentage of those children >>having some type of mental retardation,ADD or ADHD. There appears to be >>more use of these instruments for delivery. >> >Marvellous study done on recruits to Israeli army (conscripts). Looked >at IQ tests at entry and asked about mode of delivery. Average IQ was >much higher in instrumental births than spont deliveries! > >Later they realised it was a middle-class (and low-parity) thing to have >forceps for lift-out or with epidurals, whilst multips and working class >mums just got on and pushed. IQ was a social class phenomenon! >Malcolm Griffiths MD,MRCOG,MFFP,Cert.Mgmnt >Obstetrician & Gynaecologist Luton & Dunstable Hosp.,UK. >Tel: 01582-497459 (office) Fax: 01582-497376 > 01525-222849 (home) email: Malcolm@mgriff22.demon.co.uk >http://www.obgyn.net/board/griffith.htm >"CLINICAL FREEDOM IS THE LAST REFUGE OF THE CLINICALLY INCOMPETENT!" >(Someone [1997]) -- art fougner, md SonoScan/Genetic Sciences forest hills, ny evsono@pipeline.com Next message: Robert J Woolley: "Re: forceps or vaccum extractor & ADD or mental retardation" Previous message: R. Daniel Braun, M.D.: "Birth circumstance Poll" In reply to: Linda: "forceps or vaccum extractor & ADD or mental retardation" Next in thread: Malcolm Griffiths: "Re: forceps or vaccum extractor & ADD or mental retardation" Reply: Malcolm Griffiths: "Re: forceps or vaccum extractor & ADD or mental retardation"

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