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Birth circumstance Poll From: R. Daniel Braun, M.D. (rbraun@iupui.edu) Mon May 4 08:12:22 1998 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: R. Daniel Braun, M.D.: "Birth circumstance Poll" Previous message: Malcolm Griffiths: "Re: forceps or vaccum extractor & ADD or mental retardation" Next in thread: Paul Prior MD: "Re: Birth circumstance Poll" Reply: Paul Prior MD: "Re: Birth circumstance Poll" 44 week gestation, 3 pack a day smoker for a mother. Gross MECONIUM, 5 pounds 12 ounces My Grandmother took one look at me and told my mother "You'll never raise that one." Just think, if I had been a normally grown term baby, I might have been a Dean. Thank you for smoking Mother. R. Daniel Braun, MD FACOG Clinical Professor, Dept. of Obstetrics and Gynecology Indiana University School of Medicine Indianapolis, IN All men are created unequal. Lazarus Long -----Original Message----- From: Malcolm Griffiths [SMTP:Malcolm@MGRIFF22.demon.co.uk] Sent: Monday, May 04, 1998 7:46 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: forceps or vaccum extractor & ADD or mental retardation In message <5bbf0bae.354da99f@aol.com>, DoctorJoe <DoctorJoe@aol.com> writes > >In a message dated 5/3/98 3:07:40 PM, you wrote: > ><<Marvellous study done on recruits to Israeli army (conscripts). Looked >at IQ tests at entry and asked about mode of delivery. Average IQ was >much higher in instrumental births than spont deliveries! > >Later they realised it was a middle-class (and low-parity) thing to have >forceps for lift-out or with epidurals, whilst multips and working class >mums just got on and pushed. IQ was a social class phenomenon!>> > >Or maybe the operatively delivered soldiers had bigger craniums at birth... > Would still have to link bigger craniums to social class to explain the relationship! BTW - I was an unassisted spont. del. to a primip by a midwife in a unit without direct ob/gyn supervision (no epis, but 2nd degree tear, >4kg, no SD!). Maybe we should have a poll of what prorportion of list members were delivered by what route and what means. Malcolm Griffiths MD,MRCOG,MFFP,Cert.Mgmnt Obstetrician & Gynaecologist Luton & Dunstable Hosp.,UK. Tel: 01582-497459 (office) Fax: 01582-497376 01525-222849 (home) email: Malcolm@mgriff22.demon.co.uk http://www.obgyn.net/board/griffith.htm "CLINICAL FREEDOM IS THE LAST REFUGE OF THE CLINICALLY INCOMPETENT!" (Someone [1997]) Next message: R. Daniel Braun, M.D.: "Birth circumstance Poll" Previous message: Malcolm Griffiths: "Re: forceps or vaccum extractor & ADD or mental retardation" Next in thread: Paul Prior MD: "Re: Birth circumstance Poll" Reply: Paul Prior MD: "Re: Birth circumstance Poll"

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