Re: Ligating without clamping first vag hyst pedicles

From: Dr Mangeshikar (tilprash@giasbm01.vsnl.net.in)
Thu Apr 30 10:37:56 1998


>From: "Dr. Premanand B Pai Dhungat" <prempai@bom3.vsnl.net.in>
>To: "Dr Mangeshikar" <tilprash@giasbm01.vsnl.net.in>
>Subject: Re: Ligating without clamping first vag hyst pedicles
>Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:53:42 +0530
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>Dear Gail,
>I was fascinated by the interest shown in the clampless technique of vag
>hyst. I am of the strong opinion that if this technique is widely practiced
>and taught the l.a.v.h. will become reduntant.Without trying to be boastful
>we had to resort to laparotomy only in 7 cases out of total of 9982 vag
>hyst done at bombay hospital upto dec.97.
>It was nice to know that the same or similar procedure was practiced in
>florida, johns hopkins, lyons and some other places. In india it was
>practiced by late prof. dr.b.n.purandare and as it is only practiced in
>bombay and that also in some places it is called bombay method.
>I will send you the video-casette of the procedure but as all the other
>methods have described some kind of clamps or and needle holders i will
>briefly tell you how to tie the ligaments with simple everyday instuments.
>The basics is; 1) retraction of post.vag wall with Auvard's.2) Jayle's
>retractor for lateral vaginal wall retraction.3)having considered that you
>have opened both the uterovesical pouch and the p.o.d the bladder wall
>retractor is put in the u.v.pouch and held against the pubic symphisis by
>the assistant.4)the assistant who holds the cervix with the traction
>stitches pulls it to the right side and the surgeon puts the middle finger
>of the left hand through p.o.d. to put the left utero-sacral under
>tension, with the finger still in ;about 1/2 + 1 c.m. strip of vaginal
>mucosa is excised. this serves 3 purposes :demacates the uterosacral
>clearely, allows the ties securely and avoids overlapping at the end stage
>of the operation.now with the regular needle holder 1 vicryl on the regular
>needle is passed from anteriorly to posteriorly with your midle finger of
>the left hand which is acting as a guide so that the needle comes on the
>palmar surface of the middle finger. it is important that the assistant who
>is holding the cervix traction stitch gradually lifts his traction
>anteriorly. This is tied securely laterally. and with the middle finger
>still keeping the tension the uterosacral is cut close to the uterus.5)the
>middle finger now keeps the transverse cervical ligament under tension and
>the 1 vicryl stitch is put ;again the needle traversing from anterior to
>posteriorly on the palmar surface of the middle finger.This is tied
>laterally to the first suture so that the uterosacral gets double tied..
>The assistant now pulls the cervix tension stitch to the right side and
>the surgeon cuts the transverse ligament close to the uterus.6)the exact
>procedure is repeated on the right side of the patient by taking mirror
>image steps.7)Now comes the most important step.It is based on the simple
>anatomical principle that all the blood supply of the uterus comes through
>broad ligament, with the edges of the two leaves of the broad ligament
>being visible anteriorly below the level of the bladder wall reractor and
>the poseriorly near the edge of the cut transverse lagament the stitch is
>taken of no.1 vicryl with the middle finger as the guide from edge of the
>anterior peritoneum to the edge of the posterior peritoneum and this is
>tied securely, to avoid any mishap no cutting is done but an additional
>stitch is taken 1/2 cms. ant.; again going from anteriorly to posteriorly
>and this is tied and then again taking help of the middle finger of the
>left hand which keeps the ligament tense the vessels are cut close to the
>uterus. to use the adjective of the master ,"you shave the uterus "
>I hope this might give you some incentive in watching the videocassette i
>will send to you in next few days
>with regards
>premanand, f.r.c.o.g.
>
>----------
>> From: Dr Mangeshikar <tilprash@giasbm01.vsnl.net.in>
>> To: prempai@bom3.vsnl.net.in
>> Subject: Ligating without clamping first vag hyst pedicles
>> Date: Tuesday, April 28, 1998 9:18 AM
>>
>> >Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 05:19:54 -0500
>> >Reply-To: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net
>> >Originator: ob-gyn-l
>> >Sender: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net
>> >From: "Gail Waldby, MD" <gwaldby@main.basec.net>
>> >To: Multiple recipients of list <ob-gyn-l@talk.obgyn.net>
>> >Subject: Ligating without clamping first vag hyst pedicles
>> >X-Comment: list for discussion of obstetrics and gynecology
>> >
>> >Please explain how you ligate the cardinal and uterosacral ligaments and
>> >ascending uterine vessels without first clamping them during vaginal
>> >hysterectomy. I keep thinking this is a good idea and keep vowing to
>> >try it, but when the time comes during a vaginal hysterectomy, the
>> >pedicles never look right to me for this approach. How do you ligate
>> >them securely before you divide them?
>> >Gail Waldby, MD
>> >Huron Clinic SD
>> >
>> Dr Tilottama Mangeshikar
>> Consultant Anaesthetist & Intensivist
>> Bombay Hospital Institute of Medical Sciences
>>
>> Mailing Address:
>> Madhav Niwas
>> 8 Laburnum Rd
>> Gamdevi Mumbai 400007
>> India
>>
>> Tel 91 22 3805768
>> Fax 91 22 3804639
>> Mobile 98210 93832
>

Dr Tilottama Mangeshikar Consultant Anaesthetist & Intensivist Bombay Hospital Institute of Medical Sciences

Mailing Address: Madhav Niwas 8 Laburnum Rd Gamdevi Mumbai 400007 India

Tel 91 22 3805768 Fax 91 22 3804639 Mobile 98210 93832





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