Re: GYN: Pelvic Mass (long--good case)

From: R. Daniel Braun, M.D. (rbraun@iunet.iupui.edu)
Mon Mar 30 13:33:50 1998


Calvin speaks wisely. Once you get in on these ladies, clean them out. Also you have a case of lots of cooks. Is it too many?? I don't know. Not having been there in the OR, I can't make any blanket statement, but unless the patient is in severe shock get the adnexa and the corpus. You will get by 99.9% of the time leaving the cervix. Definitely the flora you are dealing with in these patients is from the intestine. Her ultimate outcome now will rest on her ARDS. I was out of town over the weekend, so I am responding late. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Calvin J. Siegers, MD FACOG <csiegers@hayburn.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ob-gyn-l@talk.obgyn.net> Date: Monday, March 30, 1998 5:44 AM Subject: Re: GYN: Pelvic Mass (long--good case)

>At Sun, 29 Mar 1998, Garry E. Siegel, M.D. wrote:
>>
>>At Sun, 29 Mar 1998, Calvin J. Siegers, MD FACOG wrote:
>>>
>>>At Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Garry E. Siegel, M.D. wrote:
>>>>
>
>Garry,
>Go with what your "gut" is telling you on this case: you're getting no
>help from ID (any coliform-anaerobe combo works) or heme/onc(she needed
>whole blood then and probably now) or radiology(can they tell you ARDS v
>cardiogenic shock?) or your partner (YOU knew what to do when you were
>looking right at it). Does her wedge pressure R/O cardiogenic shock? if
>so, she has ARDS and be VERY careful with maintenace fluids and vent
>setting--real delicate remaining alveoli. What is her hgb and how much
>blood has she gotten? No one cares as much about this patient as you do,
>no one knows as much about her disease as you do, so please do not stand
>down to your expert consultants.... Recommendation: do NOT take this
>women back to the OR unless she has a huge new abscess or hematoma(which
>still would be better managed by CT drainage) because if you do she will
>not survive. Cal
>
>--
>Calvin J. Siegers, MD FACOG...private practice, 20 yr veteran, Holland, MI
>





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