Re: Breech dilemma

From: Dr. P. Peterman (peterman@proteus.com)
Tue Mar 3 11:00:16 1998


>>Remember, no money, no insurance. Under other circumstances I certainly
>>would have confirmed with an US.
>
>If you don't have means to rpovide indigent patients with care they need,
>then refer them to those who do.
>
>>Again, her IP care is out of our control.
>
>Then why are you providing AP care?? If you cna't do her IP care, then you
>shouldn'tdo her AP care.
>This is like seeing one person for a complete pre-surgical evaluation for a
>CABG and then meeting the surgeon, for the first time, in the O.R. right
>after the anesthesiologist has injected the Pentothal (or whatever they use
>these days)
>
>>> In consenting this patient for
>>> delivery (by c-section or vaginal) you will have to address these issues
>>> when outlining the overall risk to her.
>>
>>They have been. She doesn't want a section.
>
>If you're not going to do the delivery, you can't do teh consent.
>
>>> She has two things in her favor for breech delivery: a previous breech
>>> and multiparity. Her gestational age is not in her favor (other
>>> factors: cervix?, EFW?). If this EFW is greater than six pounds, I
>>> might consider CAT pelvimetry (my clinical pelvimetry is a little rusty)
>>> to document pelvic adequacy.
>>
>>Sorry, we'all is just lo tech project dwellers I'm afraid.
>
>I work in a county Hospital and go to outlying clinics and provide care to
>just this same kind of patient. We have the capacity to get ultrasounds for
>them and to provide ECV's for them.
>I believe that 20 years ago when I was the program director in Chattanooga,
>the state had programs for the management of these patients to provide both
>AP and IP care.
>>
>>>From my original post:"Please no flames about illegal immigrants, CNMs,
>>breeches, etc, etc. And note that I haven't revealed who her AP provideris
>>anyway.
>>
>It doesn't matter about any of these initials or demographic
>characteristics. If you can't provide her IP care, you should refer her to
>whoever can for her AP care.
>

DR KLEIN, THANK YOU FOR RESPONDING TO THIS. YOU SAVED ME THE TROUBLE OF DOING SO BY STATING THE OBVIOUS. FOR THE RECORD. I DON'T FLAME NURSE MIDWIVES, OR TREAT THEM ANY DIFFERENTLY THAN ANY OTHER HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONAL. P.Peterman.





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