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Re: Midwives as list-members (was c/sec in 14 y/o) From: John G. M. Robertson (jgmr@unixg.ubc.ca) Sun Nov 30 14:10:55 1997 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Steven Crawford: "Re: velamentous insertion" Previous message: Gillian Sippert: "Re: c/sec in 14 y/o" Maybe in reply to: Malcolm Griffiths: "Midwives as list-members (was c/sec in 14 y/o)" Next in thread: AGrunebaum@aol.com: "Re: Midwives as list-members (was c/sec in 14 y/o)" Well said Malcolm. I am glad I did not respond immediately, because I would not have put it as well as you did. I welcome constructive criticism about my surgical practices FROM OTHERS WHO DO SURGERY. Even with cases that are within my area of expertise, I find it necessary to ask myself if I really know all the details before criticizing. It never seem to be quite the same if you weren't there at the time. J.G.M.Robertson MD, 109-9181 Main St. Chilliwack, B.C. V2P 4M9 (604) 793-9988 e-mail jgmr@unixg.ubc.ca The best we can do for one another is to exchange our thoughts freely; and that, after all, is about all. James A. Froude (1818-1894) -----Original Message----- From: Malcolm Griffiths <Malcolm@mgriff22.demon.co.uk> To: Multiple recipients of list <ob-gyn-l@talk.obgyn.net> Date: Sunday, November 30, 1997 4:53 AM Subject: Midwives as list-members (was c/sec in 14 y/o) >In message <3480F9F4.463@sk.sympatico.ca>, shiraz suleman ><suleman@sk.sympatico.ca> writes >>> >>> - >>Hi.Forgive me for expressing my opinion.I think we should have a site >>dedicated for OB's only.A lot of the issues discussed here are >>medico-legal in nature. >>I find that if you are not a Doctor ,you never fully appreciate what >>goes on in another physicians mind when he makes some decisions.We have >>all made wrong decisions in the past.Doctors tend to be more forgiving >>because we usually have "been there." >>The person was man enough to share his experiences .Let us respect that. >>I therefore feel that midwives should probably not be on the OB-GYN Net >>. >>There off my chest > >I have been very aware of the small number of midwives on this list. >Perhaps because I am one of the very samll number of ob/gyns on their >two lists. Occasionally I see things on their list which make me see >red. Sometimes I even start to compose a reply, but then I wise up and >press abandon/delete. My impression her too is that the small number of >midwives on this (ob/gyn) list tend to confine their comments to areas >within their practice, expertise and experience. I'm not sure that the >comments in this thread by midwives have gone beyond that. Clearly >Riocardo's practice is outwith what I would personally recognise as >acceptable or correct (in this matter). I too feel that he shows some >courage in laying himself open to criticism in this way (for which we >should all respect him). Nevertheless I can see no problem with polite, >diplomatic and constructive criticism from fellow ob/gyns or other >PROFESSIONALLY involved in the delivery of maternity care. > >Just my two cents! >Malcolm Griffiths MD,MRCOG,MFFP,Cert.Mgmnt >Obstetrician & Gynaecologist Luton & Dunstable Hosp.,UK. >Tel: 01582-497459 (office) Fax: 01582-497376 > 01525-222849 (home) email: Malcolm@mgriff22.demon.co.uk >http://www.obgyn.net/board/griffith.htm >"CLINICAL FREEDOM IS THE LAST REFUGE OF THE CLINICALLY INCOMPETENT!" >(Someone [1997]) > Next message: Steven Crawford: "Re: velamentous insertion" Previous message: Gillian Sippert: "Re: c/sec in 14 y/o" Maybe in reply to: Malcolm Griffiths: "Midwives as list-members (was c/sec in 14 y/o)" Next in thread: AGrunebaum@aol.com: "Re: Midwives as list-members (was c/sec in 14 y/o)"

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