Re: [2]: new case
From: tradmidwifery@juno.com
Sun Aug 31 01:45:57 1997
Be getting right on the Luv..................
On Sun, 31 Aug 1997 00:14:25 -0500 Rjwoolley@aol.com writes:
>This may be a stretch for this list, but I have seen *great* results
>from
>using a "grief remedy* (homeopathic), Ignatia 30x. I recently tried
>it
>on a 14week IUFD, confirmed by u/s at 12weeks. She was refusing D&C,
>and
>I was getting very concerned about the risks. Within 4 hours of
>taking
>this remedy she began cramping and spotting, passed conception tissue
>within 10hours.
>
>*********
>(me)
>
>It's not a stretch at all, Tammy. Just point us to the published
>scientific
>evidence that the treatment you propose here is effective, and we can
>discuss
>it. Otherwise, you are employing treatments with no evidence of
>efficacy,
>which is, obviously, unethical.
>
>The great thing about homeopathic remedies is, if it doesn't work it
>causes no harm, and if it does work it works well.
>******
>
>(me)
>
>If a "medication" can cause no harm, then it can do no good. If there
>are no
>more side effects than placebo, then there are no more beneficial
>effects
>than placebo. But, of course, your statement is even more extreme than
>that
>the homeopathic remedy doens't cause *more* side effects than placebo;
>you
>claim that it causes none at all. Since placebos *do* cause side
>effects, the
>obviously implication is that you are claiming, for the first time in
>the
>history of medicine, to have something in hand which causes fewer side
>effects than placebo, but is still effective. This is a truly
>remarkable
>claim. I certainly hope you have some actual scientific evidence for
>it, so
>that I don't have to write you off as stupid and gullible (which I'm
>confident you are not; but if you're believing something this
>improbable on
>the basis of zero scientific evidence, I'll have to reconsider that
>presumption of mine).
>
