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Re: Birth Plans From: Robert J. Woolley (wooll005@gold.tc.umn.edu) Sat Jun 21 22:13:44 1997 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: dahmd: "Re: Placenta Increta" Previous message: Terry J. DuBose: "Re: AFI" Maybe in reply to: CNMPAT@aol.com: "Birth Plans" Next in thread: Laurie Lovely: "Re: low dose estrogen" Reply: Laurie Lovely: "Re: low dose estrogen" In message <33AC6C95.5E6@waonline.com> writes: There's never been a controlled study, so who can > say whether it would be advantageous or not. Hmmm. Has there been a controlled study of timing of cutting the cord? You seem to have shifted the grounds of your reasoning: for letting the cord go uncut, you said nothing about controlled trials, but instead relied on analogy with other species. Why not do the same for this? > > Not a very efficient way for a human being to do it, given the nature of > the human tongue. > Neither possible nor desirable, given the immature status of the human > newborn as compared to other primates. WHAT? There are *differences* between humans and other animals, that should influence what things we do as birth attendants? Gee, never would have known it from your earlier post. How do you know which things to copy from other species and what things not to? Methinks you are very arbitrarily deciding which are which. I believe this encourages rooting and quiet alert > responses in the baby, helps maintain the appropriate body temperature > in the vulnerable newborn, and assists in the regulation of respiration > and other transitional processes. Wait a minute--when I've seen films of births in horses, dolphins, and others, I haven't noticed lots of skin-to-skin contact time between them, and certainly have never seen either mother or baby wrapped in blankets (except when there is human intervention, of course). What happened to copying what happens naturally in other species? See what I mean about the reasoning (behind your decision to let the cord pulse ad lib) leaving something to be desired? Why do you pick this one thing to copy from animals, but not everything else? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Woolley -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- St. Paul, Minnesota "Words never fail. We hear them, we read them; they enter into our mind and become part of us as long as we shall live. Who speaks reason to his fellow men bestows it upon them. Who mouths inanity disorders thought for all who listen. There must be some minimum allowable dose of inanity beyond which the mind cannot remain reasonable. Irrationality, like buried chemical waste, sooner or later must seep into the tissues of thought." -- Richard Mitchell in *Less Than Words Can Say* Next message: dahmd: "Re: Placenta Increta" Previous message: Terry J. DuBose: "Re: AFI" Maybe in reply to: CNMPAT@aol.com: "Birth Plans" Next in thread: Laurie Lovely: "Re: low dose estrogen" Reply: Laurie Lovely: "Re: low dose estrogen"

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