Re: PAP Smear after TAH

From: Robert J Woolley (wooll005@gold.tc.umn.edu)
Tue Dec 31 16:02:10 1996


On Tue, 31 Dec 1996, Zach Newton wrote:

> The absence of an indication for Pap smear translating into the absence
> of an indication for annual gyn health maintenance encounter, as implied
> by Dr. Woolley, comes across as a non-sequitur. The issues central to
> the special focus of women's health care will more likely be revealed in
> a clinical setting dedicated to women's health care. The outcome data of
> mammography and Pap rates in gyn care vs general care are on record. The

For the 75-year-old in question? I doubt that.

> laundry list of special

issues and appropriate assessment and management > give justifiable cause to annual gyn evaluation by a qualified and
> interested health care provider, be it specialist, generalist or
> non-physician professional.
>

The evidence does not support this assertion. The 1996 report of the US Preventive Services Task Force, using a strict evidence-based review, lists these preventive services for an asymptomatic, post-hyst., 75-year-old female:

BP q 2 yrs

height/weight at intervals of clinician's discretion

annual fecal occult blood testing (which pt can do at home; digital exam not recommended)

Snellen visual acuity screening, at intervals of clinician's discretion (given that most elderly need some eyewear, this would usually be done separately from a physician's office visit, in conjunction with q 1-2 yr optometrist visit, IMHO)

periodic questioning (no exam) about hearing problems, interval at clinician's discretion

quesitoning about EtOH use, interval not specified

flu shot annually

dT q 10 years

pneumococcal vaccine once

Then a raft of counseling as needed: HRT, diet, Ca++, exercise, injury prevention, etc., intervals not specified.

Now, personally, if I had seen this woman a number of times for either preventive or episodic care, and knew her status re those counseling issues, I'd tell her to get a flu shot annually (probably with a nurse BP check simultaneously), call me prn, and enjoy life without pesky doctor's appointments while she can. (Caveat: if I had indication that she would feel endangered or neglected by this approach, I'd obviously offer to do whatever she needed to feel appropriately cared for, within reason.)

What evidence do you have that this hypothetical patient would benefit from the "annual gyn health maintenance" visit you propose for her?





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