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Re: Health Care From: Andrew Folley (agfolley@hotmail.com) Fri Jul 31 11:26:10 2009 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Gordon Goldman: "Re: Health Care" Previous message: Andrew Folley: "Re: Health Care" In reply to: R. Daniel Braun: "Re: Health Care" Next in thread: Terry J DuBose: "Re: Health Care" Part of our solution will have to include a way to get more medical students to go into primary care and serve the underserved. As rich said medical school debt today 100-200K. Do you go into family practice and peds and make 80-100K per year or cardiology and make 500K to 1M per year?? Who wants to tell the specialists they are going to get less money so we can shift the monies to the primary care physicians? Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:06:06 -0500 From: rd.braun@gmail.com To: ob-gyn-l@mail.obgyn.net Subject: Re: Health Care In my experience the patient goes to a Dr. who will accept their insurance. Few of those with insurance have any choice in what company they are with. Their employer decides based on lower premiums. If employer switches insurer, the patient changes to a Dr. who accepts that new insurer. (Not all, but the vast MAJORITY) Dan On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Charles Bloom <cdsb@bellsouth.net> wrote: Andrew, I’ve been trying to stay out of the debate. I felt compelled to address Terry’s comments and I will respond to your question. Insurance companies have cut reimbursements over the last 20 plus years. The difference is that there are multiple insurances. As a practitioner you are free to increase patients from the better paying insurers and decrease those from the companies that pay less or not at all. Some patients who want you to maintain their care will switch insurances to allow you to do so. This may force the poor paying insurance companies to reimburse more and on time to avoid losing both physicians and clients. This is what happens in a free market. Under a single payer system, none of this applies and your only option if you are unhappy is to quit. Charles From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Folley Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:22 AM To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L Subject: Re: Health Care Charles, How would you feel if the insurance companies decided they were going to cut your reimbursent for OB care by 50% and same for hysterecomies? What are your current "write offs" right now??? Mine are at least 30-40%. agf > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:39:34 -0500 > From: cdsb@bellsouth.net > To: ob-gyn-l@mail.obgyn.net > Subject: RE: Health Care > > Terry, > > You've been a salaried sonographer in our current system. And if your > employer decided to cut your salary by 50%, you'd be free to market your > skill and attain the same or better salary elsewhere. But what if, under a > government run system, the government decided that ALL sonographers should > be paid half of their current salary? How would you feel about that? > > Charles > > -----Original Message----- > From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Terry J > DuBose > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:35 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L > Subject: Re: Health Care > > > > > if WE don't do it, no one will. We are not cats, and we are not to be > > herded; we are physicians who are fighting for our professional lives > > and future. Slavery is against the law, but Nobamacare wants to shackle > > us, bind us up in a single payer prison and force us to work for little > > pay, but all the responsibility and risk that goes into the practice of > > medicine. > > I disagree. I have been a salaried sonographer for over 35 years, and I > am no slave. Do you consider your staff as slaves? Or do they do piece > work in the good old capitalistic tradition? No one wants to shackle > anyone; but your polemical rhetoric is good. Do you write for a > corporate lobby? > > I thought we all got into medicine to make things better, at least I > did. > > Peace, Terry > Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Search, add, and share the web’s latest sports videos. Check it out. -- R. Daniel Braun, MD FACOG(L) ABMP CMTh #20900069 Professor Emeritus Dept. of Obstetrics and Gynecology Indiana U. School of Medicine R. Daniel Braun “Science without Religion is LAME; Religion without Science is BLIND" Einstein 1941 Next message: Gordon Goldman: "Re: Health Care" Previous message: Andrew Folley: "Re: Health Care" In reply to: R. Daniel Braun: "Re: Health Care" Next in thread: Terry J DuBose: "Re: Health Care"

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