Re: President's Wed night address on health care
From: Gordon Goldman (obgyndoc@swbell.net)
Fri Jun 26 21:50:32 2009
Is that gross or net?
Gordon
On Jun 26, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Andrew Folley wrote:
> Making 10x the average person in US seems to be "rich" to me
>
> Highest
> Median
> Lowest Highest
> Primary Care
>
> Family Practice
> Internal Medicine
> Pediatrics
> 147,516
> 160,318
> 149,754
> 111,894
> 117,984
> 111,113
> 197,025
> 205,096
> 201,086
> Primary Care Surgical
>
> OB-GYN
> Ophthalmology
> Otolaryngology
> 248,294
> 256,872
> 264,878
> 184,045
> 161,763
> 180,084
> 350,455
> 417,000
> 392,890
> Internal Medicine Specialties
>
> Endocrinology
> Neurology
> Hematology/Oncology
> Pulmonary
> Rheumatology
> Nephrology
> Gastroenterology
> Cardiology
> 170,102
> 196,563
> 269,298
> 218,978
> 165,218
> 233,824
> 292,133
> 317,500
> 123,984
> 130,872
> 155,475
> 143,229
> 119,076
> 161,039
> 179,000
> 205,000
> 221,633
> 252,765
> 473,000
> 280,278
> 218,113
> 405,142
> 381,340
> 450,607
> Surgical Specialties
>
> General Surgery
> Cardiovascular Surgery
> Colon/Rectal Surgery
> Neuro Surgery
> Oral & Maxillofacial
> Orthopedic Surgery
> Plastic Surgery
> Urology
> Vascular Surgery
> 261,276
> 558,719
> 291,199
> 438,426
> 208,340
> 357,224
> 306,047
> 285,356
> 359,339
> 175,314
> 351,108
> 186,000
> 279,655
> 157,404
> 237,731
> 196,711
> 180,808
> 237,525
> 364,279
> 852,717
> 420,175
> 713,961
> 352,879
> 540,524
> 411,500
> 375,000
> 636,995
> Miscellaneous Specialties
>
> Dermatology
> Psychiatry
> 232,000
> 174,658
> 168,988
> 121,000
> 407,000
> 189,499
> Hospital Based
>
> Anesthesiology
> Radiology
> Emergency Medicine
> 301,802
> 347,380
> 210,830
> 219,850
> 225,181
> 160,000
> 392,960
> 429,716
> 250,000
> Based on over 2978 replies
> General Income Information
> Income Measure
> Income ($/yr)
> Year
> Median Household
> 34,100+-3001
>
> Median Household - CA (from Census Bureau)
> 37,000+-7002
> 1995
> Median Household - San Diego (from Labor Dept.)
> 34,000
> 1996
> Median Family - CA (from FTB)
> 40,706
> 1995
> Median Family - LA County (from FTB)
> 36,541
> 1995
>
> Median Male Fulltime Worker
> 31,500+-2001
> 1995
> Median Female Fulltime Worker
> 22,500+-2001
> 1995
> Average Annual Pay - US
> 27,9003
> 1996?
> Average Annual Pay - US
> 26,363
> 1993
> Average Annual Pay - CA
> 29,468
> 1993
>
> Per Capita - US
> 24,231
> 1996
> Per Capita - CA
> 25,144
> 1996
> Per Capita - Washington, D.C.
> 34,932
> 1996
> Per Capita - CT (top state)
> 33,189
> 1996
> Per Capita - MI (bottom state)
> 17,471
> 1996
> 1 The uncertainties are 90% confidence intervals.
>
> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:09:18 -0500
> From: annam@uic.edu
> To: ob-gyn-l@mail.obgyn.net
> Subject: RE: President's Wed night address on health care
>
> Who got very rich? I sure didn't.
>
> Anna Meenan, MD
>
> I would say that doctors lost control of their practices the day
> when patients stopped paying the bill. Insurance companies took
> over, patients wanted "everything done" Doctors obliged and took
> the insurance money and got very rich. Now we are all seeing the
> fallout.
>
> > Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:46:57 -0500
> > From: islesannie@gmail.com
> > To: ob-gyn-l@mail.obgyn.net
> > Subject: Re: President's Wed night address on health care
> >
> > Well said, Terry.
> >
> > Joanne B
> >
> > At Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Terry J DuBose wrote:
> > >
> > >Joe this sounds like hysterical scare tactics to me. What I
> heard was
> > >that if you liked your insurance plan then nothing would have to
> change,
> > >but if you don't have insurance, then a medicare type would be
> > >available.
> > >
> > >And this statement is just crazy: "June 25, 2009 is the 44th
> anniversary
> > >of Medicare. For most physicians in the U.S., this was the
> beginning of
> > >the loss of control over their practices. For patients, this was
> the
> > >beginning of physicians answering to a government agency, rather
> than to
> > >them. Quality, access and privacy have suffered."
> > >
> > >IMHO, the real loss of control over medical practices came
> closer to
> > >1992 when the insurance corporations took over and the bean-
> counters
> > >started denying doctor's orders and telling patients which
> "preferred
> > >providers" they can see.
> > >
> > >Sorry Joe, I disagree. Peace, Terry
> > >
> > >At Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Joe wrote:
> > >>
> > >>The most insidious and alarming statement from the President. "
> We will
> > >>allow you to keep your own health plan" . Really did not know
> he had
> > >>that authority, YET. Joe C
> > >
> > >--
> > >Peace, Terry J DuBose, MS, RDMS
> > >Little Rock, Arkansas USA
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Joanne Bulley, MD
> > solo gyn
> > Keene, NH
> >
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