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Re: President's Wed night address on health care From: Andrew Folley (agfolley@hotmail.com) Fri Jun 26 10:24:53 2009 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Terry J DuBose: "NotEL - President's Wed night address on health care" Previous message: art fougner, md: "FRI - Re: New subject line:NL" In reply to: Meenan, Anna: "Re: President's Wed night address on health care" Next in thread: Gordon Goldman: "Re: President's Wed night address on health care" Reply: Gordon Goldman: "Re: President's Wed night address on health care" Making 10x the average person in US seems to be "rich" to me Highest Median Lowest Highest Primary Care Family Practice Internal Medicine Pediatrics 147,516 160,318 149,754 111,894 117,984 111,113 197,025 205,096 201,086 Primary Care Surgical OB-GYN Ophthalmology Otolaryngology 248,294 256,872 264,878 184,045 161,763 180,084 350,455 417,000 392,890 Internal Medicine Specialties Endocrinology Neurology Hematology/Oncology Pulmonary Rheumatology Nephrology Gastroenterology Cardiology 170,102 196,563 269,298 218,978 165,218 233,824 292,133 317,500 123,984 130,872 155,475 143,229 119,076 161,039 179,000 205,000 221,633 252,765 473,000 280,278 218,113 405,142 381,340 450,607 Surgical Specialties General Surgery Cardiovascular Surgery Colon/Rectal Surgery Neuro Surgery Oral & Maxillofacial Orthopedic Surgery Plastic Surgery Urology Vascular Surgery 261,276 558,719 291,199 438,426 208,340 357,224 306,047 285,356 359,339 175,314 351,108 186,000 279,655 157,404 237,731 196,711 180,808 237,525 364,279 852,717 420,175 713,961 352,879 540,524 411,500 375,000 636,995 Miscellaneous Specialties Dermatology Psychiatry 232,000 174,658 168,988 121,000 407,000 189,499 Hospital Based Anesthesiology Radiology Emergency Medicine 301,802 347,380 210,830 219,850 225,181 160,000 392,960 429,716 250,000 Based on over 2978 replies General Income Information Income Measure Income ($/yr) Year Median Household 34,100+-3001 Median Household - CA (from Census Bureau) 37,000+-7002 1995 Median Household - San Diego (from Labor Dept.) 34,000 1996 Median Family - CA (from FTB) 40,706 1995 Median Family - LA County (from FTB) 36,541 1995 Median Male Fulltime Worker 31,500+-2001 1995 Median Female Fulltime Worker 22,500+-2001 1995 Average Annual Pay - US 27,9003 1996? Average Annual Pay - US 26,363 1993 Average Annual Pay - CA 29,468 1993 Per Capita - US 24,231 1996 Per Capita - CA 25,144 1996 Per Capita - Washington, D.C. 34,932 1996 Per Capita - CT (top state) 33,189 1996 Per Capita - MI (bottom state) 17,471 1996 1 The uncertainties are 90% confidence intervals. Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:09:18 -0500 From: annam@uic.edu To: ob-gyn-l@mail.obgyn.net Subject: Re: President's Wed night address on health care Who got very rich? I sure didn't. Anna Meenan, MD I would say that doctors lost control of their practices the day when patients stopped paying the bill. Insurance companies took over, patients wanted "everything done" Doctors obliged and took the insurance money and got very rich. Now we are all seeing the fallout. > Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:46:57 -0500 > From: islesannie@gmail.com > To: ob-gyn-l@mail.obgyn.net > Subject: Re: President's Wed night address on health care > > Well said, Terry. > > Joanne B > > At Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Terry J DuBose wrote: > > > >Joe this sounds like hysterical scare tactics to me. What I heard was > >that if you liked your insurance plan then nothing would have to change, > >but if you don't have insurance, then a medicare type would be > >available. > > > >And this statement is just crazy: "June 25, 2009 is the 44th anniversary > >of Medicare. For most physicians in the U.S., this was the beginning of > >the loss of control over their practices. For patients, this was the > >beginning of physicians answering to a government agency, rather than to > >them. Quality, access and privacy have suffered." > > > >IMHO, the real loss of control over medical practices came closer to > >1992 when the insurance corporations took over and the bean-counters > >started denying doctor's orders and telling patients which "preferred > >providers" they can see. > > > >Sorry Joe, I disagree. Peace, Terry > > > >At Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Joe wrote: > >> > >>The most insidious and alarming statement from the President. " We will > >>allow you to keep your own health plan" . Really did not know he had > >>that authority, YET. Joe C > > > >-- > >Peace, Terry J DuBose, MS, RDMS > >Little Rock, Arkansas USA > > > > -- > Joanne Bulley, MD > solo gyn > Keene, NH > > Wedding dress sewing with silk - nice material! Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. See how. rial_Storage_062009 Next message: Terry J DuBose: "NotEL - President's Wed night address on health care" Previous message: art fougner, md: "FRI - Re: New subject line:NL" In reply to: Meenan, Anna: "Re: President's Wed night address on health care" Next in thread: Gordon Goldman: "Re: President's Wed night address on health care" Reply: Gordon Goldman: "Re: President's Wed night address on health care"

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