OB-GYN-L Messages for December, 2008: Re: Gyrus/Ligasure

= ****************************************************************************** Charlie Chambers

"All good things...come by grace, and grace comes by art, and art does not come easy."

Norman Maclean = *******************************************************************************

> Does anyone else feel that all this talk about how fast we can do a
> surgery is totally unprofessional and inappropriate? agf
>
> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:44 -0600
> From: rmodugno@aol.com
> To: ob-gyn-l@mail.obgyn.net
> Subject: Re: Gyrus/Ligasure
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.na>
> To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@mail.obgyn.net>
> Sent: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 1:09 am
> Subject: Re: Gyrus/Ligasure
>
> I generally ask my anesthetist to write down incision time and
> last staple/suture in at C/S and TAH. And I agree, I often find
> that my impression about how long it took is usually way off.
>
> 12 minutes for a vaginal hysterectomy, who is he kidding?
> *****************************************************************
>
> One of my first attendings in residency in South Africa was S. Joel-=20=

> Cohen. His book is based on the time and motion studies he did on
> many normal uteri - He took about 20 minutes per hysterectomy.
>
> Is speed always the quality indicator?I'm reminded of the story of
> the young bull and the old bull standing on a hill overlooking a
> herd of heifers. The young bull said:"Let's run down and have us a
> few!" The old bull said: " Let's walk down and do the lot!"
>
> Robert Modugno MD MBA FACOG
> Sylva, NC
>
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Charlie Chambers

Hood River, OR USA

cchamber@alumni.rice.edu

"All good things...come by grace,

and grace comes by art,

and art does not come easy."

Norman Maclean

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On Dec 29, 2008, = at 10:31 AM, Andrew Folley wrote:

Does anyone else feel that all this talk about how fast we can do a surgery is totally unprofessional and inappropriate? agf

Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:03:44 -0600
From: rmodugno@aol.com
To: ob-gyn-l@mail.obgyn.net
Subject: Re: Gyrus/Ligasure

-----Original Message-----
From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.na>
To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@mail.obgyn.net>
Sent: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 1:09 am
Subject: Re: Gyrus/Ligasure

I generally ask my anesthetist to write down incision time and
last staple/suture in at C/S and TAH. And I agree, I often find
that my impression about how long it took is usually way off.

12 minutes for a vaginal hysterectomy, who is he kidding?
*****************************************************************

One of my first attendings in residency in South Africa was S. Joel-Cohen. His book is based on the time and motion studies he did on many normal uteri - He took about 20 minutes per hysterectomy.

Is speed always the quality indicator?I'm reminded of the story of the young bull and the old bull standing on a hill overlooking a herd of heifers. The young bull said:"Let's run down and have us a few!" The old bull said: " Let's walk down and do the lot!"

Robert Modugno MD MBA FACOG
Sylva, NC

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