Re: GEN: Placebos

From: Richard Chudacoff (rchudacoff@mylinuxisp.com)
Sat Oct 25 09:12:41 2008


What abot the CMS requirement that all surgeries must have antibiotics pre-op...even diagnostic scopes and LSHs.

-----Original Message----- From: "vnellsch" <vnellsch@eastex.net> To: "Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L" <ob-gyn-l@mail.obgyn.net> Sent: 10/25/08 8:55 AM Subject: Re: GEN: Placebos

i think a more interesting number would be how many docs give antibiotics for viral infections, just because the patient expects it, and knowing that when they don't, some other provider will write the prescription, trying to pander to the dissatified patient. i have lost patients over this, with reports getting back to me about some helpful provider down the road. and of course, the patient got better the day after they started the antibiotic. i have a little chart in the office that i use to try and teach patients about what antiobiotics work for, but some just don't care. they want the prescription, not the recommendations for symptomatic treatment. doggone it vnellsch

>----- Original Message -----
From: "Joanne Bulley, MD" <islesannie@gmail.com> To: "Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L" <ob-gyn-l@mail.obgyn.net> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 7:04 AM Subject: Re: GEN: Placebos

> ditto!
>
> Joanne
>
> At Fri, 24 Oct 2008, R. Daniel Braun wrote:
>>
>>I thought the same thing, when I heard it. I was always taught that it was
>>not nice to fool Mother Nature or the Patient.
>>
>>Dan
>>
>>On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Joe <forcep@intercom.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Darn , I am getting old. Can't remember when I ever did that. Guess I
>>> am
>>> wrong generation. Joe C
>>>
>>>> *Majority of Doctors Use Placebos, Survey Finds*
>>>>
>>>> A new survey of American doctors has found that about half of
>>>> respondents
>>>> give their patients placebo treatments, in many cases without informing
>>>> them
>>>> that the treatment won't necessarily be helpful. The study, published
>>>> in the
>>>> online journal BMJ, surveyed a random sample of nearly 700 internists
>>>> and
>>>> rheumatologists of which about 60 percent said that placebo treatments
>>>> were
>>>> ethically acceptable. Studies in Britain, Denmark and Sweden have
>>>> reported
>>>> similar findings. /Chantal Britt, Bloomberg /10/24/2008
>>>> Read Article: _Bloomberg_
>>>>
>>>> Joe P.
>>>>
>>>> registration required and great graphics - check it out! (
>>>> http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir>>>> http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame00000001)
>>>>
>>--
>>R. Daniel Braun, MD FACOG(L) ABMP CMTh
>>Professor Emeritus
>>Dept. of Obstetrics and Gynecology
>>Indiana U. School of Medicine
>>
>>--
>>R. Daniel Braun
>>
>> "Science without Religion is LAME; Religion without Science is
>> BLIND"
>> Einstein 1941
>>
>
> --
> Joanne Bulley, MD
> solo gyn
> Keene, NH





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