Mechanical bowel prep

From: rmodugno@aol.com
Wed Jul 30 18:26:51 2008


Interesting article on mechanical bowel prep from the SAMJ

http://www.samj.org.za/index.php/samj/article/viewFile/129/323

Robert Modugno MD Sylva, NC

>From RModugno@aol.com Wed Jul 30 18:46:40 2008
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-----Original Message----- From: Raymond Stephen <Stephen.Raymond@dhhs.tas.gov.au> To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@mail.obgyn.net> Sent: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 9:35 am Subject: Re: OB didelphyic/bicornuate and breech --> type of incision?

The best approach in an obese patient in obstetrics is the one that allows you to do what you have to do without postoperative risks.  In my view that means avoiding a midline, because you only need access to the lower segment and sufficient width to deliver the baby. 

 

If you need greater access than that, such as in a placenta percreta where you will probably need access to the upper segment, then you have to accept second best and do your midline. 

I too close midlines with a “loop nylon or PDS” and hope and pray that they don’t get infected – terrible situation if the patient is obese and/or diabetic!

 

Steve Raymond

Ph (03)62227898

Cell 0438372395

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Steve, I know physicians who use the same suture for transverse incisons and these patient types get infected no matter the abdominal approach.

What is your approach to the obese patient with a large pannus/panniculus?

Robert Modugno MD MBA FACOG Sylva, NC

>From stephen.raymond@dhhs.tas.gov.au Wed Jul 30 19:44:16 2008 Received: from tas.gov.au (mail12.tas.gov.au [202.7.15.72]) by mail.obgyn.net (8.11.6/8.11.6/dsb-1.1) with ESMTP id m6V0i8c28468 for <ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net>; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:44:10 -0500 Received: from ([10.9.30.23]) by mail12.tas.gov.au with ESMTP id 6W4JRF1.65927094; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:44:05 +1000 Received: from COREEX01.health.local ([10.9.30.25]) by COREEX10.health.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:44:05 +1000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.3959 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Importance: normal Priority: normal Subject: Re: type of incision? Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:44:04 +1000 Message-ID: <F42DCA755CD6764EA6938BBB62F5450107E98257@COREEX01.health.local> In-Reply-To: <8CAC0B59206C63F-167C-3FC6@WEBMAIL-DF03.sysops.aol.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: type of incision? Thread-Index: Acjynu1Dbteh5JJpQGukaFrCXx164gABrLsQ References: <8CAC0B59206C63F-167C-3FC6@WEBMAIL-DF03.sysops.aol.com> From: "Raymond Stephen" <Stephen.Raymond@dhhs.tas.gov.au> To: <ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jul 2008 00:44:05.0458 (UTC) FILETIME=[88DA9B20:01C8F2A6] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mail.obgyn.net id m6V0i8c28468

Start with some Trendelenburg (head down tilt). Perform a transverse incision just above the fold where the pannus reaches the mons. Make the rectus sheath incision wider than usual to compensate for the depth of the fat. Keep a heavy tissue forceps on the upper edge of rectus sheath and fix it in some way to retract constantly throughout the operation. Infection incidence is probably no different between midlines and transverses, but the potential consequences in a midline are much worse. I know of no evidence that proves that prophylactic antibiotics prevent wound infection, but it is likely. I don't think suture material has any bearing. Attention to minimising tissue trauma, bleeding, haematoma formation and tight bulky suturing are all good strategies.

Steve Raymond Ph (03)62227898 Cell 0438372395 -----Original Message----- From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of rmodugno@aol.com Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2008 9:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L Subject: Re: type of incision?

-----Original Message----- From: Raymond Stephen <Stephen.Raymond@dhhs.tas.gov.au> To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@mail.obgyn.net> Sent: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 9:35 am Subject: Re: OB didelphyic/bicornuate and breech --> type of incision?

The best approach in an obese patient in obstetrics is the one that allows you to do what you have to do without postoperative risks. In my view that means avoiding a midline, because you only need access to the lower segment and sufficient width to deliver the baby.

Steve Raymond

Ph (03)62227898

Cell 0438372395

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Steve, I know physicians who use the same suture for transverse incisons and these patient types get infected no matter the abdominal approach.

What is your approach to the obese patient with a large pannus/panniculus?

Robert Modugno MD MBA FACOG Sylva, NC

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