Re: Gen: Medical Records
From: R. Daniel Braun (rd.braun@gmail.com)
Mon Jun 23 10:38:57 2008
As the dictionary says it is an ERRONEOUS word.
Dan
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:21 AM, art fougner, md <evsono@pipeline.com>
wrote:
> You mean irregardless ain't a word?
>
> Art
>
> At Sun, 22 Jun 2008, R. Daniel Braun wrote:
> >
> >One of my pet peeves.
> >
> >IRREGARDLESS
> >
> >Online Etymology
> >Dictionary<http://dictionary.reference.com/help/etymon.html>- Cite
> >This Source<
> http://dictionary.reference.com/cite.html?qh=irregardless&ia=etymon>-
> >Share
> >This <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irregardless#sharethis>
> >irregardless
> >an erroneous word that, etymologically, means the exact opposite of what
> it
> >is used to express, attested in non-standard writing from 1912, probably a
> >blend of irrespective and regardless. Perhaps inspired by the double
> >negative used as an emphatic.
> >
> >Dan
> >
> >On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Ronald Ainsworth <ainsron@sbcglobal.net
> >
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I agree completely with this statement. I do not
> >> charge if the records are going to another physician's
> >> office, irregardless of the reason for transfer of
> >> care, only if they are going to an insurance company,
> >> lawyer, etc.
> >> Ron
> >> --- Gordon Goldman <obgyndoc@swbell.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Garry,
> >> >
> >> > I do not think you can ethically withhold the
> >> > records, (http://
> >> >
> >> http://www.acog.org/departments/dept_notice.cfm?recno=19&bulletin=1884)
> >> > but
> >> > you are certainly entitled to the fee. We ask the
> >> > patients to pay
> >> > for them in advance of sending them and if they do
> >> > not, we do not
> >> > withhold the records from another physician's
> >> > office. Whether that
> >> > would apply to a midwife (CNM or otherwise), may be
> >> > another issue.
> >> > If you (or as some on the list) have strong
> >> > objections to poorly or
> >> > unsupervised midwifery, a case might be made for
> >> > incurring liability
> >> > by sending those records to other than another
> >> > physician. With
> >> > regard to sending records to employers and or other
> >> > third party
> >> > payers (insurance companies), that is not for the
> >> > purpose of ongoing
> >> > medical care and is billable and collectable prior
> >> > to sending the
> >> > records. We prefer to have the records copied and
> >> > picked up by the
> >> > patient (I think HIPAA allows this one time with
> >> > appropriate cost to
> >> > the patient), who signs a receipt for them. If
> >> > requests are received
> >> > subsequent to that, simply refer them to the
> >> > patient, as you have
> >> > fulfilled compliance with the law and ethics.
> >> >
> >> > Best regards,
> >> >
> >> > Gordon
> >> >
> >> > On Jun 21, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Garry E. Siegel, M.D.
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Due to an impending change in delivery hospitals,
> >> > a well regarded CNM
> >> > > from our practice has resigned, and moved nearby.
> >> > As expected, a fair
> >> > > number of obstetric patients, some due soon, have
> >> > requested their
> >> > > medical records.
> >> > >
> >> > > Georgia law allows a retrieval fee of $24.32 and a
> >> > per page charge
> >> > > that
> >> > > is around 80 to 90 cents per page, depending on
> >> > the total number.
> >> > >
> >> > > We have asked for $25 flat for all, and only
> >> > around 20% have chosen to
> >> > > pay YET they are leaving the practice.
> >> > >
> >> > > We don't want to hinder their care, but we are
> >> > within the law and
> >> > > common
> >> > > practice. The problem is that some are due soon,
> >> > so there is a time
> >> > > factor.
> >> > >
> >> > > Any thoughts?
> >> > >
> >> > > Garry
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Garry E. Siegel, M.D.
> >> > > Private Practice
> >> > > Roswell, GA
> >> >
> >>
> >--
> >R. Daniel Braun, MD FACOG(L) ABMP CMTh
> >Professor Emeritus
> >Dept. of Obstetrics and Gynecology
> >Indiana U. School of Medicine
> >
> >R. Daniel Braun
> >
> >"Science without Religion is LAME; Religion without Science is BLIND"
> >Einstein 1941
> >
>
> --
> art fougner, md
> "May The Wings of Liberty Never Lose a Feather." - Jack Burton
>
--
R. Daniel Braun, MD FACOG(L) ABMP CMTh
Professor Emeritus
Dept. of Obstetrics and Gynecology
Indiana U. School of Medicine
R. Daniel Braun
"Science without Religion is LAME; Religion without Science is BLIND"
Einstein 1941
