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Re: Sometimes breeches are just meant to be born vaginally. From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse (el@lisse.na) Fri May 30 10:37:16 2008 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: Dr Eberhard W Lisse: "Re: Sometimes breeches are just meant to be born vaginally." Previous message: DoctorJoe@aol.com: "Re: OT: Medical know-how raises suicide risk for doctors" In reply to: Dr. John Provatopoulos B.Sc. M.D.C.M. F.R.S.C.: "Re: Sometimes breeches are just meant to be born vaginally." Next in thread: Bernard Cristalli: "Re: Sometimes breeches are just meant to be born vaginally." John, I know that. It just proves my point even more. Never mind the spinal :-)-O el On May 30, 2008, at 12:14, Dr. John Provatopoulos B.Sc. M.D.C.M. F.R.S.C. wrote: > At Fri, 30 May 2008, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: >> >> I totally disagree. >> >> The golden rule is evidence doesn't lie. >> >> And, in Canada for example there just is not difference between >> vaginal and cesarean deliver wrt maternal mortality. >> >> I would also catch a breech if she pushes, but this particular >> situation is not an example of how to practice safe obstetrics. >> >> I have never had issues with dealing with umbilical cords at cesarean >> breech which I could not resolve immediately. But you can't do that >> in vaginal delivery, and in prematures the head is more likely >> to trap the cord. >> >> el >> >> on 5/30/08 8:30 AM Dr. John Provatopoulos B.Sc. M.D.C.M. F.R.S.C. >> said >> the following: > > Sorry El there was no difference only for a small segment in time in > the > Provence of British Colombia. El , you have to know when you are > comaparing apples to apples. I am 100 % certain that the morbdity and > mortality of a Vaginal birth in a Mom with a BMI of 46 is much less > than > an emergency C-section > with general anesthetic in this Mom who just had breakfast. There are > lies,dam lies and then there are statistics. The Golden rule is not > open to interpretation. A dead Mom can not have any more babies, a > mom > with a dead or handicaped baby can sue you and also have more babies. > > -- > Take care, John > Next message: Dr Eberhard W Lisse: "Re: Sometimes breeches are just meant to be born vaginally." Previous message: DoctorJoe@aol.com: "Re: OT: Medical know-how raises suicide risk for doctors" In reply to: Dr. John Provatopoulos B.Sc. M.D.C.M. F.R.S.C.: "Re: Sometimes breeches are just meant to be born vaginally." Next in thread: Bernard Cristalli: "Re: Sometimes breeches are just meant to be born vaginally."

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