Re: What's next

From: Efrain Ramirez (eramirezt@coqui.net)
Sat Apr 26 07:30:13 2008


http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=steroids+IVH+and+nec BJOG: An International Journal of Obstetrics and Gynaecology Volume 113 Issue s3 Page 4-9, December 2006

To cite this article: WM Gilbert (2006) The cost of preterm birth: the low cost versus high value of tocolysis BJOG: An International Journal of Obstetrics and Gynaecology 113 (s3) , 4–9 doi:10.1111/j.1471-0528.2006.01117.x

Prev Article Next Article Abstract Review article The cost of preterm birth: the low cost versus high value of tocolysis WM Gilbertaa Women’s Services, Sutter Health, Sacramento, CA, USAProf WM Gilbert, Women’s Services, Sutter Health, Sac-Sierra Region, 5151 F Street, 2 South, Sacramento, CA 95819, USA. Email gilberw@sutterhealth.orga Women’s Services, Sutter Health, Sacramento, CA, USA Prof WM Gilbert, Women’s Services, Sutter Health, Sac-Sierra Region, 5151 F Street, 2 South, Sacramento, CA 95819, USA. Email gilberw@sutterhealth.org Abstract The consequences of preterm birth (PTB), to the individual and society at large, remain a major financial and personal burden. Babies born at the limits of viability, who survive, often have major neurological impairments, such as cerebral palsy, developmental delay and blindness. The cost of initial hospitalisation is more than $200 000 for each birth but takes no account of future costs once they leave the hospital. The major morbidities associated with extreme prematurity are respiratory distress syndrome (RDS), intraventricular haemorrhage (IVH) and necrotising enterocolitis (NEC). With advancing gestational age at birth, the financial costs and morbidity associated with these conditions decrease. The major morbidities (RDS, IVH and NEC) are rare by 34 weeks of gestation, with the exception of RDS, which complicates 7% of deliveries at this gestational age. While the vast majority of infants survive the first year of life, the infant mortality rate is markedly increased by three- to five-fold even for the mildly preterm infants, as compared with that of the term infants. Neonates born after 34 completed weeks of gestation rarely have mortality or major morbidity, but the financial costs remain significant ($7000 per case), and efforts to prevent delivery at this gestational age are probably indicated. Economic costs associated with PTB include the cost of initial hospitalisation, the cost of any chronic diseases resulting from the prematurity and social costs including loss of gainful employment by a family member taking care of the infant or child and loss of potential future earnings of the affected child. Antenatal steroids, if given to the mother at least 48 hours prior to a PTB, have shown significant reductions in RDS, IVH and NEC. Efforts to prevent, or avoid, PTB include the use of tocolytic agents which have been shown to prolong gestation for a minimum of 48 hours, or longer in some cases. The range of tocolytic agents used to delay or prevent PTB work through many different pathways, with varying degrees of success. Which tocolytic agent to use depends on many factors including underlying maternal status, gestational age of the fetus and documented efficacy of agent used.

At Fri, 25 Apr 2008, Garry E. Siegel, M.D. wrote: >
>Thanks for the input, Dan and Ef.
>
>Is there evidence to use steroids as you've suggested, or is it just
>based on experience/obstetric horse sense?
>
>Isn't there a bit of a thought that steroids may have long term growth
>consequences? In other words, there may be harm such that one shouldn't
>use them unless clearly indicated.
>
>Garry
>
>At Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Efrain Ramirez wrote:
>>
>>Agree!!!!
>>
>>Ef
>>
>>At Thu, 24 Apr 2008, R. Daniel Braun wrote:
>>>
>>>Steroids do more than prevent RDS. They also decrease incidence of IVH and
>>>NEC, which can still occur after 34 weeks. Risk of giving steroids is ??????
>>>
>>>Dan
>>>
>>>On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Andrew Folley <agfolley@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I must have missed how the diagnosis of IUGR was made?agf
>>>>
>>>> > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 06:11:49 -0500
>>>> > From: cdsb@bellsouth.net
>>>> > To: ob-gyn-l@mail.obgyn.net
>>>> > Subject: RE: What's next
>>>> >
>>>> > I don't give steroids after 34 weeks either. And Garry is right, the baby
>>>> > isn't thriving, it's small.
>>>> >
>>>> > But if the fetus were say 30 weeks with IUGR, but with Reactive NST and
>>>> 8/8
>>>> > BPP, then I think there wouldn't be such a rush to delivery.
>>>> >
>>>> > So the real question here I think is given an IUGR fetus with perfect
>>>> > testing, what is the EGA we would electively deliver?
>>>> >
>>>> > Everyone may have a different answer. Here is an example of there being
>>>> 10
>>>> > different ways to do something in medicine and nine of them not being
>>>> wrong.
>>>> >
>>>> > Charles
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Garry
>>>> E.
>>>> > Siegel, M.D.
>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:47 PM
>>>> > To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
>>>> > Subject: Re: What's next
>>>> >
>>>> > Over 34 weeks--no steroids unless amnio done and lung maturity not
>>>> > proven.
>>>> >
>>>> > Yes, the late preterm baby alluded to in ACOG's Committe Bulletin has
>>>> > more morbidity, etc., but this baby is far from thriving inside.
>>>> >
>>>> > Reassuring testing is nice, but nicer is a baby in the nursery.
>>>> >
>>>> > Deliver her, my friend.
>>>> >
>>>> > Garry
>>>> >
>>>> > At Wed, 23 Apr 2008, Efrain Ramirez wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >No fetal weight gain at all in the last 2 weeks.. umbilical artery
>>>> > >doppler normal.. MCA not done.. mother perceives fewer FM's.. just
>>>> > >like the other pregnancy.
>>>> > >Definitive asymmetric IUGR.
>>>> > >Level III NICU .. I had to deliver in the last year to babies at 26
>>>> > >weeks .. doing well..
>>>> > >Steroids? - it's a Democratic Primary..
>>>> > >Legally speaking an unexpected IUFD would be hard to defend... NICU
>>>> > >complications, IMHO, easier.
>>>> > >Thanks to all.. recommendations well taken.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Ef
>>>> > >
>>>> > >At Wed, 23 Apr 2008, art fougner, md wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>Middle cerebral artery doppler? Uterine artery doppler?
>>>> > >>If all normal, would suggest (unencumbered by data) twice weekly nst's
>>>> > >>with AFI's, weekly dopplers and elective delivery at term.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>Art
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>At Wed, 23 Apr 2008, Efrain Ramirez wrote:
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>30 some G2, P1 - previous C/S - IUGR - at 36 weeks - apparently no
>>>> > >>>reassuring FHR's.2 weeks at NICU.. at present 34 w and 5 d.. BPP
>>>> > >>>10/10, EFW - 1500-1600 below 5th.. normal umbilical Doppler .. what's
>>>> > >>>next?
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>Ef
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>--
>>>> > >>>"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying." - Michael
>>>> Jordan
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>--
>>>> > >>art fougner, md
>>>> > >>"May The Wings of Liberty Never Lose a Feather." - Jack Burton
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >--
>>>> > >"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying." - Michael Jordan
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Garry E. Siegel, M.D.
>>>> > Private Practice
>>>> > Roswell, GA
>>>> >
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>>"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying." - Michael Jordan
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>Garry E. Siegel, M.D.
>Private Practice
>Roswell, GA
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