Re: Mirena and IUP
From: R. Daniel Braun (rd.braun@gmail.com)
Tue Apr 22 12:45:09 2008
It is extra amniotic.
Dan
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Frances Wren <fwren@shaw.ca> wrote:
> I don't think it gets through the membranes....but am trying to think how
> it actually ends up in there and not still on the outside....like how embryo
> , sac, placenta forms and somehow includes it???
> puzzling...at least to me anyways.
> frances wren
> maybe when the placenta is invading the uterine wall or rather growing
> into it somewhat it gets incorporated??
>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr Eberhard W Lisse" <el@lisse.na>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L" <ob-gyn-l@mail.obgyn.net>
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 1:31 PM
>
> Subject: Re: Mirena and IUP
>
> I have no idea :-)-O
> >
> > el
> >
> > On Apr 21, 2008, at 15:21, R. Daniel Braun wrote:
> >
> > > So how did it get through the membranes?????
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse <el@lisse.na>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > I have seen one delivery where the baby came out with the
> > > > IUD in his hand (I kid you not :-)-O) but I inform the patient
> > > > and they usually let me pull it out.
> > > >
> > > > greetings, el
> > > >
> > > > on 4/21/08 6:32 AM Bernard Cristalli said the following:
> > > >
> > > > .. Nor have I seen a 2nd trimester miscarriage or premature labour
> > > > caused
> > > >
> > > > > bu the IUD...
> > > > > If you can grasp the thead and pull the IUD gently then do it,
> > > > > otherwise
> > > > > leave it alone.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bernard
> > > > >
> > > > > Raymond Stephen a écrit :
> > > > >
> > > > > > Leaving any Intra-uterine device in when pregnant raises the
> > > > > > risk of
> > > > > > premature rupture of membranes, 2^nd trimester miscarriage and
> > > > > > septic
> > > > > > abortion. All of these are worse than the chance of disrupting a
> > > > > > pregnancy
> > > > > > if the device is removed – a pregnancy which was unplanned
> > > > > > anyway. I have
> > > > > > never actually seen any pregnancy miscarry after removing the
> > > > > > device, though
> > > > > > I am sure it can happen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve
> > > > > >
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