Re: Caffeine-miscarriage link study
From: Charlie Chambers (cchamber@embarqmail.com)
Sun Jan 27 14:56:42 2008
No, but being raised in an environment of paranoia and fear can cause
irrevocable injury..
On Jan 27, 2008, at 8:57 AM, Larry Glazerman wrote:
> This brings back an OLD story (true story). An ex partner of mine
> was having dinner with a pregnant friend and her husband
> (thankfully, not a patient of ours). My partner ordered a cup of
> coffee, and the pregnant friend was worried that the fumes would
> damage her fetus.
>
> Larry R. Glazerman, MD, FACOG
> St. Luke's Center for Advanced Gynecologic Care
> 250 Cetronia Road
> Suite 305
> Allentown PA 18104
> 484-223-3279
> 484-223-2830 FAX
> glazerl@slhn.org
>
> On Jan 27, 2008, at 10:11 AM, Gordon Goldman wrote:
>
>> Not to mention the second-hand caffeine that pollutes the
>> environment as the molecules evaporate into the air from those
>> steaming cups of coffee.
>> This will generate 'no caffeine' areas of restaurants and
>> eventually ban the 'public use' of it in all buildings, etc. ad
>> nauseam.
>>
>> Gordon
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2008, at 5:10 AM, art fougner, md wrote:
>>
>>> Caffeine warning labels on coffee cups, ala beer bottles/cans?
>>>
>>> Art
>>>
>>> At Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Gordon Goldman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> David,
>>>>
>>>> I agree with you, except I think this will serve another purpose;
>>>> fodder for the litigious at heart.
>>>>
>>>> The coffee vendors (Seattle, Starbuck's and the like) will be the
>>>> target of litigation for not having adequately warned their female
>>>> clientele of the 'deadly' consequences of caffeine ingestion.
>>>>
>>>> And of course, the physicians will be targeted also, unless it is
>>>> documented in the record that you specifically warned against it,
>>>> despite the paucity of hard fact. In Missouri, we have to have the
>>>> patient sign a statement at the onset of prenatal care, warning
>>>> them
>>>> of alcohol, tobacco and drug use. Caffeine is next.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gordon M. Goldman, M.D., FACOG
>>>> Private Practice, St. Louis, Mo.
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 26, 2008, at 4:33 PM, David Priver wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Study linking caffeine, miscarriages flawed
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding “Study reports link between caffeine use, miscarriages”
>>>>> (News,
>>>>> Jan. 21):
>>>>>
>>>>> In my view, as an OB/GYN, this is a dreadfully flawed study
>>>>> that will
>>>>> serve no purpose other to further frighten pregnant women about
>>>>> the
>>>>> growing volume of supposedly dangerous substances that they must
>>>>> avoid.
>>>>>
>>>>> First of all, it is hopelessly unreliable to question women, often
>>>>> months following a miscarriage, about what they did or did not
>>>>> consume
>>>>> while pregnant. Secondly, women who have the most “morning
>>>>> sickness”
>>>>> and, therefore, are the least likely to be consuming coffee (or
>>>>> nearly
>>>>> anything else), almost never miscarry, presumably as a result of a
>>>>> very
>>>>> high hormone level. This reflects an association, but clearly
>>>>> not a
>>>>> cause and effect relationship. Finally, it is well-established
>>>>> that
>>>>> miscarriage is, with very few exceptions, caused by pregnancies
>>>>> associated with chromosomal abnormalities, something that cannot
>>>>> possibly be affected by he consumption of caffeine.
>>>>>
>>>>> As the March of Dimes spokeswoman stated while explaining why that
>>>>> organization will now proceed to jump on this fear-inducing
>>>>> bandwagon,
>>>>> “Women do need good guidance.” Indeed they do, but this study
>>>>> did not
>>>>> provide it.
>>>>>
>>>>> DAVID PRIVER
>>>>> San Diego
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> art fougner, md
>>> "May The Wings of Liberty Never Lose a Feather." - Jack Burton
>>
>
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