Re: 2am roundtable discussions

From: FRANCES WREN (fwren@shaw.ca)
Sat Nov 17 10:29:25 2007


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with a normal non-instrumental vaginal delivery..I never inspect for cervical lacerations...if there is not much bleeding and there have been no instruments the likelihood of a cervical tear worth bothering about in my opinion is NIL so leave well alone. frances wren

>----- Original Message -----
From: johnprov@sympatico.ca (Dr. John Provatopoulos B.Sc. M.D.C.M. F.R.S.C.) Date: Saturday, November 17, 2007 5:28 am Subject: Re: 2am roundtable discussions To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net>

> At Fri, 16 Nov 2007, DMECNM@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >It is 2 a.m., the board is full, no one is going to bed anytime
> soon. There
> >are still 5 laboring women in waiting room hoping for a bed
> ... soon.
> >
> >Discussion at the desk regarding what we all learned 10, 20, 30
> years ago as
> >"standard practice".
> >
> >So, how many of you, regardless of circumstances, inspect for
> a cervical
> >laceration on EVERY and ALL vaginal deliveries?
> >
> >Denise, CNM
> >So Cal
>
> Int J Gynaecol Obstet. 1991 Feb;34(2):133-7.Links
> Postpartum colposcopy of the cervix: injury and healing.Fahmy K,
> el-Gazar A, Sammour M, Nosair M, Salem A.
> Department of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, Benha, Faculty of Medicine,
> Egypt.
>
> Colposcopic examination was done in 189 successive parturients within
> 6-48 h of delivery for evidence of type, site, and extent of cervical
> trauma and its relation to various obstetric factors.
> There was trauma
> in 66% of cases, as erosion in 79%, as laceration in 56%, as
> bruising in
> 30%, and as yellow areas in 17%. In about two-thirds of
> cases, the
> diameter of cervical erosion, or the length of laceration did
> not exceed
> 5 mm and 81% of lacerations were of first degree. Cervical
> injury was
> significantly more frequent in primiparae, in the anterior
> cervical lip,
> in occipito-posterior positions, and with premature rupture of
> membranes. In 117 parturients with cervical injury another
> colposcopicexamination was done 6-8 weeks postpartum. In
> 8% there was residual
> cervical damage.
>
> PMID: 1671367 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
> --
> Take care, John
>

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<DIV>with a normal non-instrumental vaginal delivery..I never inspect for cervical lacerations...if there is not much bleeding and there have been no instruments the likelihood of a cervical tear worth bothering about in my opinion is NIL</DIV> <DIV>so leave well alone.</DIV> <DIV>frances wren</DIV>

><DIV>&nbsp;<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: johnprov@sympatico.ca (Dr. John Provatopoulos&nbsp; B.Sc. M.D.C.M. F.R.S.C.)<BR>Date: Saturday, November 17, 2007 5:28 am<BR>Subject: Re: 2am roundtable discussions<BR>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L &lt;ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net&gt;<BR><BR>&gt; At Fri, 16 Nov 2007, DMECNM@aol.com wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;It is 2 a.m., the board is full, no one is going to bed anytime <BR>&gt; soon.&nbsp;&nbsp; There<BR>&gt; &gt;are still 5 laboring women in waiting room hoping for a bed <BR>&gt; ...&nbsp; soon.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;Discussion at the desk regarding what we all learned 10, 20, 30 <BR>&gt; years ago&nbsp; as<BR>&gt; &gt;"standard practice".<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;So, how many of you, regardless of circumstances, inspect for <BR>&gt; a&nbsp; cervical<BR>&gt; &gt;laceration on EVERY and ALL vaginal deliveries?<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;Denise, CNM<BR>&gt; &gt;So Cal<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Int J Gynaecol Obstet. 1991 Feb;34(2):133-7.Links<BR>&gt; Postpartum colposcopy o
f the cervix: injury and healing.Fahmy K,<BR>&gt; el-Gazar A, Sammour M, Nosair M, Salem A.<BR>&gt; Department of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, Benha, Faculty of Medicine,<BR>&gt; Egypt.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Colposcopic examination was done in 189 successive parturients within<BR>&gt; 6-48 h of delivery for evidence of type, site, and extent of cervical<BR>&gt; trauma and its relation to various obstetric factors.&nbsp; <BR>&gt; There was trauma<BR>&gt; in 66% of cases, as erosion in 79%, as laceration in 56%, as <BR>&gt; bruising in<BR>&gt; 30%, and as yellow areas in 17%.&nbsp; In about two-thirds of <BR>&gt; cases, the<BR>&gt; diameter of cervical erosion, or the length of laceration did <BR>&gt; not exceed<BR>&gt; 5 mm and 81% of lacerations were of first degree.&nbsp; Cervical <BR>&gt; injury was<BR>&gt; significantly more frequent in primiparae, in the anterior <BR>&gt; cervical lip,<BR>&gt; in occipito-posterior positions, and with premature rupture of<BR>&gt; membranes.&nbsp; In 117 parturients with cervical injury another <BR>&gt; colposcopicexamination was done 6-8 weeks postpartum.&nbsp; In <BR>&gt; 8% there was residual<BR>&gt; cervical damage.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; PMID: 1671367 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; --<BR>&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Take care, John<BR>&gt; </DIV>

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