Re: acutely anteflexed uterus
From: D. Ashley Hill (dahmd@cfl.rr.com)
Sun Jul 22 15:08:07 2007
Nice job, Joanne. I have not used a flexible scope for the Essure
procedure.
Along the same lines as Joanne's story, I would like to share with the
group a "technique" I tried for the first time the other day out of
desperation. The patient is postmenopausal and had a failed attempt at
office hysteroscopy with endometrial sampling due to the worst stenosis
I have ever seen. Her internal os was about as big as the tip of a
ballpoint pen, so I did it in the OR. Even the half-step dilators were
too big to pass. Fearing a perforation, I placed the smallest half-step
dilator up to the pinpoint opening, then slid the smallest 30-degree
diagnostic hysteroscope I could find over the top of the dilator. I was
able to watch the dilator go into the opening, and was able to control
the depth of penetration so that it was only a few mm with each pass. I
did this sequentially until I could pass the laparoscope. No perf. I'm
sure others here have used this before, but perhaps someone can benefit
from my initial frustration. Have a nice weekend.
Ashley
At Sun, 22 Jul 2007, Joanne Bulley, MD wrote:
>
>Ultimately I did a combination of these suggestions.
>
>Weighted speculum definitely removed
>Drop the scope toward the floor
>pull like heck on the tenaculum - ripped out of the anterior lip several
>times
>put the tenaculum on the lateral lip and pulled and that seemed to alter
>the angle of the canal and in the scope went. (I didn't consider
>putting ant & post tenaculums as Ineeded to be able to drop that scope
>posteriorly.
>
>I was doing an essure and depsite taking 15 minutes to get in - the
>lining was not yet too edematous from the trials and I passed those
>essures into each tube easy as pie.
>
>Then I sutured the cervix.
>
>Has anyone put in any Essures with a flexible scope? (our hospital does
>tno have a flexible scope).
>
>So glad this was not one tried in the office!
>
>She wanted the sterilization - and had had a difficult cholecystectomy
>in the past with a umbilico=xiphoid incision - I thought avoiding the
>abdominal cavity was the best idea.
>
>Joanne
>
>At Fri, 20 Jul 2007, D. Ashley Hill wrote:
>>
>>I try to place the patient flat on the table (no T-berg), then place the
>>rigid hysteroscope into the cervix to the level of the internal os.
>>Then, drop your hand and 'scope as low as they will go (you may need to
>>remove the speculum if one is in place) and watch as you angle it
>>towards the fundus. Alternatively, a flexible scope may work. Good
>>luck.
>>
>>DAH
>>
>>At Fri, 20 Jul 2007, Joanne Bulley, MD wrote:
>>>
>>>OK folks - so I split the infinitive - anyone have any suggestions for
>>>dealing with the severely anteflexed uterus and successfully place the
>>>rigid hysteroscope into the uterus??
>>>
>>>Joanne
>>>
>>>At Fri, 20 Jul 2007, Raymond Stephen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Well spotted, Gerald! Now I'm wondering how many others didn't notice the reversed order of the "to" and the "not"?
>>>>
>>>>Steve
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Gerald P.Rodriguez
>>>>Sent: Friday, 20 July 2007 1:19 AM
>>>>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
>>>>Subject: Re: acutely anteflexed uterus
>>>>
>>>>I think he was referring to the split infinitive that Joanne used; he was
>>>>not claiming it didn't come from the Bard.
>>>>
>>>>[After 25 years it was really bizarre having to try to guess how to get
>>>>into the cavity - while being exceedingly careful to not Perf!]
>>>>
>>>>Gerald P. Rodríguez, M.D., FACOG
>>>>Santa Fe
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "ainsron" <ainsron@sbcglobal.net>
>>>>To: "Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L" <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:49 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: acutely anteflexed uterus
>>>>
>>>>> If he didn't, who did?? If the quote isn't correct, correct it.
>>>>>
>>>>> "To be or not to be, --that is the question:--
>>>>> Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
>>>>> The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune
>>>>> Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
>>>>> And by opposing end them?"
>>>>>
>>>>> -- From Hamlet (III, i, 56-61)
>>>>>
>>>>> Ronald E. Ainsworth, MD, FACOG
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Raymond
>>>>> Stephen
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:13 PM
>>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
>>>>> Subject: RE: acutely anteflexed uterus
>>>>>
>>>>> Shakespeare did NOT write "to be or to not be"
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net [mailto:ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net] On Behalf Of Joanne
>>>>> Bulley, MD
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 19 July 2007 1:01 PM
>>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
>>>>> Subject: acutely anteflexed uterus
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Friends,
>>>>> "...while being exceedingly careful to not Perf!"
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Joanne Bulley, MD, FACOG
>>>>> Solo gyn
>>>>> Keene, NH USA
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>>>Joanne Bulley, MD, FACOG
>>>Solo gyn
>>>Keene, NH USA
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>>--
>>D. Ashley Hill, MD
>>Associate Director
>>Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology
>>Florida Hospital Family Practice Residency
>>Medical Director, Loch Haven Ob/Gyn Group
>>Division Director, Dept. of Ob/Gyn, Florida Hospital Orlando
>>Orlando, Florida
>>
>--
>Joanne Bulley, MD, FACOG
>Solo gyn
>Keene, NH USA
>
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D. Ashley Hill, MD
Associate Director
Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology
Florida Hospital Family Practice Residency
Medical Director, Loch Haven Ob/Gyn Group
Division Director, Dept. of Ob/Gyn, Florida Hospital Orlando
Orlando, Florida