Re: What Is A Partial Birth Abortion?
From: acmidwife@netscape.net
Thu Apr 19 21:32:04 2007
Now that's what you call ironic.
ac
-----Original Message-----
From: agfolley@hotmail.com
To: ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net
Sent: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: What Is A Partial Birth Abortion?
"Kill 32 people in Virgina and they call you a psychopathic murderer, kill 1 million babies every year and they call it womens rights..." go figure??? agf
>From: Louana M George <westsidebirthservice@juno.com>
>Reply-To: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net
>To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net>
>Subject: Re: What Is A Partial Birth Abortion?
>Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:46:52 -0500
>
>We must all remember that medically there is no actual "partial-birth
>abortion" this is just a political term. The politicians are attempting
>to whip up an emotional frenzy for the medical D&E or D&X (look up the
>history on this debate and you'll find the political branding of this
>procedure).
>Louana
>
>On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:37:58 -0500 DoctorJoe@aol.com writes:
>
>In a message dated 4/18/07 3:05:13 PM, dean@thehuffpeople.net writes:
>
>For anybody wondering what a partial brith abortion is, Congress defines
>"partial-birth abortion," at §1531(b)(1), as a procedure in which the
>doctor:
>
>"(A) deliberately and intentionally vaginally delivers a living fetus
>until, in
>the case of a head-first presentation, the entire fetal head is outside
>the
>[mother's] body ... , or, in the case of breech presentation, any part of
>the
>fetal trunk past the navel is outside the [mother's] body ... , for the
>purpose
>of performing an overt act that the person knows will kill the partially
>delivered living fetus"; and "(B) performs the overt act, other than
>completion
>of delivery, that kills the fetus."
>
>I am not clear on whether or not a D&E is a paartial birth abortion, but
>I would
>be very reluctant to perform one at this time without a strong legal
>opionion
>backing me up.
>
>I thought it was pretty clear what was going on.
>
>The baby is viable. The aim is to partially deliver it (in particular,
>don't let it draw a breath, else it would be "alive" and therefore a
>legally protected "person" under just about anyone's laws) and then kill
>it (e.g. by suctioning the brains out) before it's completely delivered.
>
>If the baby is so immature that it won't survive the delivery, just
>delivering it doesn't satisfy the definition above. It's the "overt act
>.. that kills the fetus" before delivery that distinguishes this
>procedure from a more common D&E.
>
>Joe P.
>
>P.S. Irrespective of ACOG's argument, or anyone else's, I can envision NO
>scenario which would necessitate this procedure. I've yet to even hear a
>hypothetical one.
>
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