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Re: A bright spot in the day From: R. Daniel Braun (rd.braun@gmail.com) Tue Mar 27 17:58:00 2007 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: R. Daniel Braun: "Re: Lost IUD" Previous message: Harrison Sheld: "Re: Lost IUD" Check out the excerpt of a poem found on page 2 at the following URL http://www.medicaldynamics.nl/download?id=61 It is from a poem by Aldo Vacca. the Kiwi who invented the "Kiwi". The title is "It is always more posterior than you think." It is interesting that it is in the product insert. The whole poem is located elsewhere in the literature. I have a copy of the whole poem at the Hospital. He is stressing that the flexion point (The appropriate spot to apply the Ventousse {all types} is the flexion point.) is always more posterior than you think. In most OP's if you get it right, the cup will be parallel to the floor & between the head and the rectum. Dan Dan On 3/27/07, Meenan, Anna <annam@uic.edu> wrote: > > 7 lb 1 oz Baby had actually rotated to ROA before we put the Kiwi > on, and ordinarily I would have continued to watch and wait, but I > think the rotation must have tightened up the nuchal cord, because > the heart tones didn't get scary until after the rotation and only > when she pushed. Midline epis because there wasn't time to let her > stretch either. Haven't done one of those in quite awhile. > > Anna Meenan, MD > > > > >Nice story, I hope for mom's sake baby was less than 9 lbs. I have used > >the Kiwi's before ,nice instrument. The vacum would not be my > >instrument of choice in a primip with a large baby and persistant O.P. > >Some of the toughest repairs I have had where for > 9 lbs babies that > >delievered spantaneously O.P.; maid me wonder whether c-section would > >have carried less morbidty. > > > >-- > > Take care, John > -- R. Daniel Braun, MD FACOG(L) CMT Professor Emeritus Dept. of Obstetrics and Gynecology Indiana U. School of Medicine R. Daniel Braun "The way to health is an aromatic bath and scented massage everyday". Hippocrates Next message: R. Daniel Braun: "Re: Lost IUD" Previous message: Harrison Sheld: "Re: Lost IUD"

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