Re: Retire forceps and vacuums?

From: Ronald Ainsworth (ainsron@sbcglobal.net)
Sun Oct 15 21:21:44 2006


You're right about the mere mention of "forceps" causing terrible reverberations throughout the delivery room, I began noticing it in the early 80's. Thank God vacuum extraction didn't raise the same level of concern from most parents. I've always though the militant lamaze and Bradley instructors were the biggest critics of both techniques who gained the trust and confidence of the patients.

Cesar Molina <cemolar777@gmail.com> wrote: According to Mr.Foley, the forceps is directed to a museum.I think this is real in part. In CR possibly (I don´t have precise statitstics) less than 20% of residents develop the skills to use it. The youger obstetricians prefer cs than a forceps. I had the chance in my formation to get very good skills with forceps, but the enviroment to use it are the worse. When you are goint to use it, is like a terrific event in delivery room. All the nurse and other personal run to the room, like if some person (baby or mother), will be sacrificated. The pacient´s husband put a dramatic face when listen the diabolic word "forceps". OK; the entorn to do it is not the better. What happened ?

2006/10/14, Bernard Cristalli <bcrist@club-internet.fr>: Andrew, Would you section a woman with a baby at the low part of the pelvis, rather than perform a low forceps? Let's teach obstetricians or the next step will be to ban vaginal deliveries. BC

Andrew Folley a écrit : > As a follow up to the industrialization of obstetrics, does anyone
> wish to defend the postion that moms and babies would be better off if
> vacuums, forceps and breech deliveries were "outlawed" in the obsteric
> suites? I have spent the last 25 years trying to hone my skills in
> these areas but I wonder if we should simply say that there is no
> longer any place for forceps and vacuums in obstetrics. C-sections
> certainly have their risks but I think we would all agree that for the
> most part they have become a very, very safe procedure. Maybe it is
> time to put the vacuum and forceps on the museum shelf??? andrew
>
>> From: garrys@mindspring.com (Garry E. Siegel, M.D.)
>> Reply-To: ob-gyn-l@obgyn.net
>> To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L <ob-gyn-l@dns.obgyn.net>
>> Subject: Re: 'How childbirth went industrial'
>> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:08:27 -0500
>>
>> Today, my partner and I were lamenting the demise of forceps skills
>> today, as our junior partner did a section on someone fully dilated
>> after pushing for a long while (CNM patient who pushed longer than 3
>> hours, primigravida with an epidural) that sounds like she might have
>> been "deliverable" by an obstetrician more comfortable with operative
>> vaginal delivery.
>>
>> Garry
>>
>> --
>> Garry E. Siegel, M.D.
>> Private Practice
>> Roswell, GA
>

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