Re: SUI postpartum

From: Elrod, Darryl G Maj 48 MDOS/SGOBO (Darryl.elrod@LAKENHEATH.AF.MIL)
Tue Sep 19 02:10:58 2006


It is a frustrating dilemma. You know what the diagnosis is and that it leaves the patient with a hygiene problem if nothing else, but you also know that time MAY make things a bit better. The other confounding thing is what to do if someone isn't done with child bearing yet? Would you still operate or put it off indefinitely (all the time leaving them with this not so nice symptom) while waiting for them to have more children?

Glen

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Meenan, Anna
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 6:20 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list OB-GYN-L
Subject: Re: SUI postpartum

Aw, c'mon Joe, you don't remember the brachial plexus and upper extremity nerves from anatomy lab? Saturday night palsy--high radial nerve palsy caused by passing out drunk with arms hanging over the arms of the chair, resulting in bad wrist drop the next morning.

After I had my 10-pounder, I felt like the entire contents of my pelvis would drop on the floor everytime I stood up, and I was sure I would never be able to hold my urine again. Several weeks of kegels fixed that, at least for the next 20 years (actually, still not too bad, but trampolines and jump ropes are no longer my friends).

Anna Meenan, MD

In a message dated 9/15/06 9:58:21 PM, ND84MD@aol.com writes:

the etiology of sui post partum is often multifactorial; the nerve conduction abnormalities realted to the latter weeks of pregnancy are often overlooked(think of a "saturday night palsy" going on for 5 weeks); the anatomic consequences are likely to be permanent; once the supporting fascial tissues are torn, they are not going to magically restore themselves. formal urodynamic testing will give you a much better idea of what is going on with your patient; there is no need to wait a year or more to offer treatment once the dx is made.

What the dickens is a "Saturday night palsy" and what does it have to do with SUI after delivery??? I think Joanne has already given her insight as to how long it takes "normal" involution/resolution/recontitution/regeneration/yada/yada/yada to take place. So what are we suffering major angst about? MOTHER NATURE'S rules, dictates and preferences??? Hey, go yell at the hurricane and maybe it will turn left to Florida and spare your home! (NOT!) Joe P.





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