Re: Section on demand
From: R. Daniel Braun (rd.braun@gmail.com)
Fri Apr 28 06:17:37 2006
It hasn't been 24 hours since I asked our L&D Nurses; "How did women ever
deliver babies before we could count?" Interestingly enough, they never have
an answer and just look at me like "You crazy old fool"
On 4/27/06, Heidi Streufert <heidi@nybble.net> wrote:
>
> On Apr 27, 2006, at 6:05 PM, Babycatchers@aol.com wrote:
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> > I hate to say it- but 100 deliveries is not a lot of experience.
> > And you get to cherry pick your clients. It sounds like you have
> > not been the primary care giver in them either.
>
> I already said BOTH of those things.
>
> > (CPM or CNM) is that women deserve the birth that THEY want and not
> > what WE want to do.
>
> I also already said that.
>
> > As for 4th degree lacs- they happen- spontaneously. I can't count
> > the number of them , but I know it is at least a dozen in the last
> > 4 years.
>
> I asked my primary about this after I posted here. She has been doing
> births for over 12 years and hasn't seen a dozen 4th degree tears in
> a _dozen_ years. She works with many Amish clients as well as the
> 'cherry picked' ones and she has seen over 500 births, including
> twins and breech. How many of those 4th degrees you've seen have been
> in women with epidurals? Do you still encourage your patients to
> "take a deep breath, and PUUSHHHH, 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 and
> BREATHE!!!" or do you encourage spontaneous bearing down efforts and
> believe that the baby will come out without the cheerleading and
> 'coaching?'
>
> > I am glad for your good experience, But one day you are going to be
> > in over your head and really need the help of the people you are
> > talking to on this forum.
>
> And I have absolutely never claimed otherwise. We have some excellent
> physicians in my area, and there is even a busy CNM homebirth
> practice that has been in the area for almost 20 years.
>
> > Don't throw all OBs into the same bag- especially on their forum.
> > All docs are different, just like all midwives
>
> I absolutely did no such thing. Whose posts were you reading when you
> wrote this?
>
> Heidi
>
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R. Daniel Braun
"The way to health is an aromatic bath and scented massage everyday"..
Hippocrates
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