Re: South Dakota law bans nearly all abortions

From: Dr Eberhard Lisse (el@lisse.NA)
Fri Mar 10 22:09:05 2006


Joanne,

this is a *LEGAL* issue, and regulated by statute. In your country by Roe vs Wade.

Actually you can not call an act defined and permitted by statute Murder, because Murder is defined by statute. And if they say life is sacrosanct, they can't have it both ways.

No, the issue is not when life begins, the issue is plain whether a woman should have a choice in the matter. And it is that, what these religious nut cases don't want.

And again it's regulated by law. If the Drakotan law survives the challanges that will come, it will be the law and remain on the books. What's the distance from the average Drakotan town to the state line? Further than from Windhoek to Cape Town?

el

on 3/11/06 12:10 AM Joanne Bulley, MD said the following: > There are major distinctions ... the identification of when life starts
> is not universally held ... is it conception ... is it with the first
> breath ... As we do not have a single definition that all can agree to
> there is indeed a world of difference between the choice to end a
> pregnancy and convenience killing after birth has occurred.
>
> I have no problem with someone being anti-abortion but pro capital
> punishment (well ... I would like to have the discussion about why they
> think capital punishment helps society after a crime however grisly has
> been committed) ... but they can indeed have those two opinions -- just
> don't come to me and act holier-than-thou because they are anti-abortion
> while I am pro-abortion as an option that has to be left to teh
> individual and her conscience / faith / philosophiy.
>
> The attitude of folks who I have been involved with who cal themselves
> "Pro-Life" is pretty uniformly the holier than thou attitude. I find
> that hypocritical.
>
> Joanne
>
> At Fri, 10 Mar 2006, William D. McIntosh, M.D wrote:
>> I would have to agree that this is a very politically expedient
>> definition, very lawyerly black and white, with none of those messy
>> human grey areas. I can only grant your definition if you will grant
>> mine (TIC), i.e. that in order for a personal philosophy to be
>> consistent with abortion on demand, one must also advocate the killing
>> on demand of any inconvenient or non-essential person, such as, but not
>> limited to, noisy children, the handicapped, the elderly, lesser races,
>> all criminals, unfaithful women, ad infinitum. My personal views on
>> abortion are as conflicted as any sentient persons might be, but
>> "slippery slope" arguments go both ways. If you are going to tar with a
>> broad brush, be prepared for the slop over.
>>
>> William D McIntosh, MD, FACOG
>> Clarksville, TN
>>
>> -
>
> --
> Joanne Bulley, MD
> Keene, NH, USA
>
> "Love is indescribable and unconditional.
> I could tell you a thousand things that it is not, but not one that it is."
> — Duke Ellington, American jazz artist (1899-1974).





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